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WalesDanza5 years ago

Thank you all for your effort. I will update the leaderboard to include game time, which will be the main timing method over real time.

I will update rules to reflect this.

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WalesDanza6 years ago

https://discord.gg/011hZixyZfK5g61NL

We have a nice active discord server here where plenty of runners will be able to help with running.

If you check the leaderboards under Any% PS, Daren_k has completed a run with most new strats.

But yes, if possible try and join the discord, it's much easier to discuss strats, runs and routing and your questions will be more visible on there.

Have fun! Nice to see a new runner.

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WalesDanza6 years ago

https://discord.gg/YTaRrKN

Haven't run my own discord before, feel free to join.

WalesDanza6 years ago

Heres my thoughts:

The game always keeps track of the floor shes on and adjusts air movement accordingly.

When you jump, you have to be above the lowest point, then on the descent when she enters free fall, pass over higher geometry back onto lower geometry. I also found curving, growing sharper as you curve, helpful.

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WalesDanza6 years ago

I tried to find a flymode for the start, but it seems impossible because transform isnt enabled yet. Could be wrong though.

WalesDanza6 years ago

Have you found any consistency with fly mode triggering btw? i find it pretty difficult and inconsistent/

WalesDanza6 years ago

Great strat :D And yeah judging by those splits, Sub 30 should be possible. Each temple is roughly 2-3 minutes with OOB strats. Thats really hype, i'm looking forward to a run with the OOBs :)

I timed a couple of loads, the time difference seems to be about ~20s. Over all the loads in the run, console loses 3-5 minutes (im sure some of them have a much smaller difference, hence the big range)

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WalesDanza6 years ago

Can it really go that low? Do i lose a lot of time to loads or are there more optimal strats? GG on the 37!

Edit: Just compared to your previous PB, I lose about 20s on the first load alone.

WalesDanza6 years ago

Loads take up a lot of time in this game and seem to vary between consoles/PC. Would it be more beneficial to use RTA Minus Loads as the timing method for this game? or at least have a loadless column on the leaderboards?

Another suggestion is categories. Any% skips basically every temple using flymode and OOBs so:

Any% remains any% with flymode/OOBs etc. allowed.

Any% No Major Skips or Any% No Fly Glitch - Where flymode glitch is disallowed, and maybe OOBs too.

These are just suggestions i'd like to know what the other runners/mods think. I am happy with the way it is currently too if we keep it as is.

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WalesDanza6 years ago

Archives skip:

Sanctuary keys skip:

WalesDanza6 years ago

Great! It would definitely save time! You can also do it in the vault.

I've also found an archives skip and sanctuary out of bounds which save about 4 minutes total. I'll link them today.

Got a 41min pb atm but it was a bit sloppy, my sum of best is at 37 minutes. Going to try for the sub 40 then submit.

WalesDanza6 years ago

I'm up for maybe creating one, or someone else.

WalesDanza6 years ago

Saves approximately 5 minutes over old IL.

With all current strats, sub 40 should be doable. Maybe there is an OOB for Archives.

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WalesDanza6 years ago

This was quick to find :)

I'm very sure there is one on sanctuary. When I finish the game I'll go back and check. If we can flymode, I think we can skip the entire level, nearly.

WalesDanza6 years ago

A quick IL to showcase the route. Saves nearly 1:30 with flymode :)

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WalesDanza6 years ago

I think this warrants it's own thread :)

With a precise jump from the spot I show in the video, you can trigger flymode indoors consistently. This means we can trigger flymode at the start on the way down, and use bird for rest of the archives :)

I think this is what KimInTheAttic meant in her thread.

I am not sure on the mechanics, other than it seems to require either a certain height, or passing over very close to ground, but then missing it and landing somewhere else. As you can see in the video, I just about miss the ground after the jump, which I believe triggers the glitch.

tl;dr Can activate fly indoors consistently, the strat seems to be to jump into freefall, get very close to the ground, then miss it and it should trigger flymode.

WalesDanza6 years ago

Instead of making a thread about each little thing I find, i've made a playlist with various strats:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1om_VUEdkSPX9TuF-oWZvCZo_4YXj5Jl

I will update this rather than constantly making threads.

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WalesDanza6 years ago

I haven't checked to see if it softlocks, I don't think it does. Saves around a minute.

WalesDanza6 years ago

I've had massive troubles with dxwnd and the steam version. It worked on my laptop, not on my PC. Never found a fix, had to get a non-steam version for it to work. The only thing i can suggest is when it did work on my laptop, i had to launch the game through steam, not via dxwnd.

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