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Cabbage4 years ago

yes, i never said console should be banned, i only said that now if there's console use in the middle of runs there may have to be rules specifying which commands are allowed in case future patches allow for altering the gameplay itself through the console

the creation of ahk scripts for other purposes are far from conspiracy and i could prove it if you wanted by creating a script which auto-selects specific items from command menus. this could save time in categories such as any% at the end of teleporters but would be especially useful in all chars because of times where quickly stopping to pick up a speed item would save time in the long run. if we ban a script such as that, i would assume the line should be drawn at completely banning scripts during a run in order to avoid having to arbitrarily decide which scripts are allowed or not during a run

Cabbage4 years ago

yeah i would think that using an auto restart script is fine for categories like any% but using scripts in the middle of a run just feels wrong to me, especially if anyone can make whatever script they want and execute it during runs since that's literally a TAS, if you refer to the end of my post it could cause problems

i'm not sure what all can be done with the vanilla console but again, using it in the middle of a run could be problematic if there aren't any rules against it. there are commands like cheats and timescale and although they don't work at the moment later patches could fix them and have more console commands like giving items or w/e, i would think that those should obviously be banned

if you reset a run with a script which uses the console in any% then that part isn't being timed so it isn't part of the run so i don't see how anyone could have any problems with that, but all characters is different from any% since you have to do menuing in the middle of the run. menuing is a skill-based part of many different speedruns and it feels arbitrary to say that it's non-skill oriented in the context of this game and i personally haven't seen any speedruns which allow the use of user-created scripts for the purpose of speeding up menuing without being considered a TAS

Cabbage4 years ago

doesn't bother me that much because it's an impressive run and would still be faster than mine without whichever script is being ran to quick-restart runs and i'm not an active runner anymore. i don't know of any other speedrun which allows the use of arbitrary user-created scripts during the run without being called a TAS though, the use of console commands during a run is also a bit strange and i think if the rules remain arbitrary like this there could be confusion in the future since for example a script could be used to auto-select items from command, mash teleporter entrance, and maybe even automate loader moon travel. just my thoughts though

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Cabbage4 years ago

starting with 2hp is fastest, but having to wait for the moving platform at the end slows it down considerably. just wanted to test if it was possible to 1cycle the platform at 2hp

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Cabbage4 years ago

not sure how viable this is for actual runs.

3hp (legit)

2hp (tas)

haven't tried it much with 2hp but if anyone is able to do it legit that would make for an interesting run

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