United StatesCan you define "selling out" for me?
Selling out, in my opinion, is taking money for personal gain that is against your core values and principles. This deal isn't that, in any way. This is us getting our events paid for to do whatever we want to do normally, and have more freedom to do things our way more often. There is no "selling out" in any sense.
I'd just like to say that it seemed most people posting in here were in favor of the idea sans the staff, but not many people in general posted. Is this discussion over, or what?
Needs non twitch embeds tbh
@Naegleria, that's what the point of this thread was supposed to be in the first place. We've already had multiple discussions with the staff members, and this was supposed to get the attendees' input, rather than just get shut down nearly immediately lol
Stream.me staff was basing it's offer off of what naegleria told us, if you thought you needed more, that probably shouldve been brought up then, or slightly afterward, imo
The metric for "success" isn't hard and fast, and 400 concurrent viewers isn't really their metric, either.
More events also isn't forced, obviously. It's an option/offer. Nothing more, nothing less. There's no expectation of free labor, either. If things went well, then they would compensate you for them.
If you have connections with twitch, could you get me unbanned so that I could attend the event as well?
What other costs are there? Again, I was looking for this info from some of you but didn't really get any straight answers, the only cost I was told was the venue.
I don't really see how the contract is negative at all. It's not binding past one marathon, and it would give you guys a hell of a lot less stress considering costs, and would cheapen things for everyone involved.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. This deal wouldn't hinder us in any capacity on doing what we want to do. In fact, given that their TOS is more lax and reasonable means we would, by default, have more potential for fun. Funding future events is also better so people dont have to worry about coordinating funds as much. Paying for every runner's travel would be quite difficult, and expensive, but not completely out of the question if the relationship were to be extremely beneficial for both parties.
I'd also like to say that if the marathon is on twitch, then I cannot attend the event at all, for full transparency.
I wouldn't view it as being "tied down", it's basically giving us money and freedom to do what we want to do anyway, but more easily. Possible future funding would mean more marathons and more meetups, as well.
Also, you don't have to promote anything, but chances are you'll be saying "reminder I'll be at nasa and doing X on X" regardless of if stream.me is involved, so there's no extra work there.
For full funding of the event, it would have to be exclusive, and we would have to do our best to let all the viewers know where to go. If it was a dual stream, most viewers would just use twitch, and there wouldn't be much reason to go to the alternative website at that point.
Given that we still have 2 months, I believe that letting people know where to go is an easy task, and isn't much to worry about.
However, keep in mind that this is only for this upcoming event. If this happens and it's not a good thing or people want to go back to twitch, there's nothing stopping them.
Hello, all. I'd like to present an open letter to the community, attendees, runners, and everyone who cares about NASA and speedrunning events like it.
To cut to the chase, I am working with a new streaming platform called Stream.Me, and the company that owns this website wants to build up their speedrunning presence and get speedrunners interested in the website.
So, they want to work with the NASA marathon, and pay for everything. That would mean they cover the entire hotel space for the event, and anyone attending would either get a refund or not have to pay for an attendance fee at all. They also said that they would be interested in funding additional marathons and fully funding them as well, meaning NASA could potentially expand to 2 or 3 times a year, assuming people's schedules sync up and so forth.
The owners of Stream.Me have a lot of money, and are willing to invest in certain people and certain communities to promote their website. They have a monthly giveaway contest based on how much you stream and they give away thousands of dollars. https://www.stream.me/contest#leaderboard
They also have easy partner options, and I can get anyone a subscribe button if they ask me, and it can be a custom amount as well. The delay on the website is around 3-5 seconds, they have custom emote options so you can bring in all your favorite FFZ memes pretty easily. They have a feature called a "multistream" which is basically a built in race page you can organize with your buds. The TOS is a lot more lax, and they won't ban people for being "epic". They also aren't gaming exclusive and allow anything that isn't porn or movies on there. There are many more options than twitch for things that would benefit speedrunners and smaller streamers especially.
Not only do I think that them funding NASA is a good idea, I highly recommend looking into the website for personal use as well. I've made over a thousand dollars from doing literally nothing but what I've always been doing, and the site's been nothing but generous with myself, and the people I've brought over already. The only real downside is that we would get less passerby viewers that find the stream. However, personally, I think the pros heavily outweigh the cons, and the con could easily be negated if we advertised and promoted the alternative platform enough. I think the pros of being able to have speedrun meetups and marathons more frequently, potentially in smaller doses and so forth, is awesome and this website is willing to make it happen. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. If you wish to contact me privately for any sort of discussion, my discord is Cyberdemon531#3251.
The main point of this thread, is that after talking to various people on NASA staff, they all essentially said that they'd want to know what the general consensus is for the community as a whole and attendees, so that's why I'm making this thread. People can throw in there opinions, and hopefully have a civilized and well thought out discussion about this offer.
To put it simply:
Pros of NASA being on stream.me: No attendance fee No strict rules for on stream behavior Potentially funding future events in full Potentially more events overall Building a community that is ran by us Money
Cons: Less visibility and less passerby viewers for the event
What do you all think?
dude nice
Geez, seems quite unprofessional on their end. Hopefully one of these options will end up being better regardless.
should make ng+ all levels not misc since its the most popular category.
I'd assume probably around 5 minutes or so depending on hardware. Hard to say, really. BFG also has more ammo and such that make the game a tad easier, as well as the flashlight mount.
Yeah, I do agree with this. Makes things better anyway and cheating less possible, I think.
A Solution would be to just have Any% and Any% Madhouse. That way normal runs can just be filed under Any%
just submit your time to the easy board or stop running normal because its dumb lol
but you can do whatever you want tbh just have fun
Not at the moment, but some day I'll get one for PAL exclusives (and faster PAL ports)
