Reminder that FDS is irrelevant because X Collection has faster and consistent load times, and that removing load times all together would make them even more irrelevant.

And I hate to say it, but I agree with Luiz on In game time. If it stops this board from turning into a garbage bin with 18 categories, then it should be done.

It would be arbitrary, but it certainly beats having 18 categories.

If you wanted maximum competition, you would either time out loads or use in game time.

Active runners would be: XC: 8bit, myself, substylee, crak PS1: Choco, plum

XC is more popular, and at worst even in popularity with PS1. This is a speed running website, so the fastest version should take priority. As far as timing goes my opinion is: No loads RTA > IGT > RTA > separating everything into 18 categories so everyone can have a world record

As far as all stages goes (the most optimized category) my in game time is faster than the fastest PS1 run. Thus making it more optimized. As far as runners go: XC: 8bit, cirno, me, zewing, kryptoid, substylee, qttsix, souless, crak PS1: fuji, choco, plum, orsa

I'm not clogging anything, I'm directly responding to Luiz.

yeah go ahead and ban my 44:17 because its relevant lol

why is normal standard because its default, but you're allowed to use rapid fire, auto charge, and change controls?

why would you standardize the least optimized and least popular version? If XC and PS1 are separated, PS1 should be misc.

And I was unmodded again for no reason. Nice.

How is it not a good argument? Assuming emulator is 30 seconds faster which is what I was told, I can easily beat 42:28 on gamecube. That way, until I beat it, the best run is displayed on the top of the board.

Also, again, time without loads would solve all these issues as well.

Because all the runs done on emulator can be improved on console. Also, keep in mind that timing without loads removes all issues with emulator load advantages.

Reminder that it was accepted without many questions for a year and a half, and that the only difference between it and consoles is loading times, that when removed, would make it a fair platform. Hating an emulator because its an emulator is unhealthy. It would be extremely easy to time loads and make it fair comparison. Also, even if emulator is 30 seconds faster, my record is stil wayyyy better than the fastest console times.

EDIT: Actually the top 3 runs are all better than the fastest console run regardless of if it is played on emulator or not. If you want to ban emulator, ban it from submitting new runs, but don't remove old ones.

If we time out loads, I don't think japanese would be faster, since if you do the donut skip you still have to slowly fight heatnix as Zero. It doesn't save -that- much time.

Removing a run (mine) after it was done because of a decision made afterward is pretty silly. If you choose to ban PS2 emulators, then ban them, but don't remove my runs, because they were done in a time period where the emulator was accepted. As I said before, I plan on switching to console as soon as possible, and my next record will be done on Gamecube (Well, wii). Also, keep in mind, my all stages run is the best run regardless of version, so removing it is just against everything related to keeping records on the site. When I beat it with console, then remove it.

Do not separate by difficulty. If someone chooses to use a slower route, that's on them. If we separate by difficulty, we may as well separate by maverick order as well. It's literally 15 seconds of difference, and the gameplay is identical (between normal and easy, anyway. No one runs Xtreme because it's too hard for them). The only logical form of difficulty separation would be fastest (easy for any% and all stages, and normal for 100%) and hardest (xtreme). Intermediate difficulties is arbitrary.

X Collection is the standard. It has been for years, I don't really understand why it's relevant that some players prefer the PS1 version. They choose to go slower, thats on them. If they want to run the game, they should compete on the fastest version available. It's the same principle as route differences. If someone CHOOSES to play a SLOWER method of play, why would we accommodate for their ineptitude?

I'm all for timing loads and doing conversions to make every version legal (including ps2 emu, because that is my preferred platform) as long as it is done properly and it is consistent. Another thing relevant in load timeout is deaths (adding X amount of seconds per death, etc) you have to consider.

Another option is to use in game time. My least favorite option, but I would prefer it over removing the world record.

I would prefer timing loads out to keep all runs legitimate, and I would help in that process if need be. Banning a run retroactively is foolish and anti-speedrun, especially since everyone knows its the best run of the game regardless of version and platform.

I'd like to request supermod for Mega Man X6 as I was removed for no reason, and the moderators reformated the board with out a proper discussion with major members of the community, and removed over 75% of the listed runs. Thanks :)

EDIT: It seems the issue was resolved, never mind!

Because this game has multiple versions, I think it'd be wise to add a variable to the board to display which one was used during which run(s). What do y'all think?

I wouldn't want two separate versions, but if there was a version with all campaigns prior to skip patches that'd be swell as hell.

I'd like to say I don't care about this game, and have completely different opinions from Orsa and Mopey, but I understand their points of view. They are prominent members of the community, so they deserve the right of way when making the rules of the leaderboard. This X4 board on Speedrun.com was made during the point of time when anyone could make a board, and that's why peter did. He then asked on twitter who wanted to be mod and he modded me and poopdeck (who he unmodded later, because poopdeck changed the board to the way it was on the MMRTA site), but I never did anything because I know the community only cared about the MMRTA site. I would say that Luiz_Miguel only offers a toxic interpretation of what Orsa, Hetfield, and Mopey are trying to say, so it's probably safe to ignore what he is saying. I'll go ahead and unmod myself here now rather than wait until later. Also, I believe that each and every individual X game (and mega man in general) should be personally moderated by each community themselves, rather than as a whole. Remember the Resident Evil leaderboards when Carcinogen took over all the games? Let's not have that again. Each game being moderated by each community is the best way to go, so I think Orsa and Mopey should take over.

EDIT: Ok, I don't know how to unmod myself, so I won't do that right now.

yeah, separating in Doom 3 is already there, just don't need a separate game.

There's not enough digits to input the actual time of the runs, so they rank them that way, and put the actual time in the comment.

If you have any questions or anything about the game, post here or send me a message on skype (cyberdemon531) as we have a skype group with runners that can help.