Categories on the leaderboard
7 years ago
Italy

There's been some talk about the various categories and whether or not they deserve to stay on the leaderboards, so I thought I'd bring this to the SRC forums and prompt mods (hi theos) to make the change after we've reached a decision.

The idea was to only show the main categories on the front page - Messenger Ending, All Sigils, Gehenna any%, Gehenna 100%. Other categories should go under a miscellaneous tab - see this leaderboard for example: http://www.speedrun.com/pkmnredblue

-- But Ninja, what about Transcendance? It's a different enough category from Messenger, especially now that any% is cubeless, to the point that I could justify it being in the main leaderboard. That said, it's not actively ran and I don't think it deserves a spot alongside any% and 100%. I think it's 'classier' to have just any%+100% for both main game and DLC as the main categories, and everything else - slower endings, etc as misc categories.

-- And what about Low%? With Low% being = Any% now, it's pointless to keep it in the leaderboard. If enough people run it, we could make Legacy Low% (29 sigils) or some other weird variations of it and put them on leaderboards, but as it stands Low% is literally nonexistant.

-- So what would be your misc categories?

  1. Transcendance Ending. Read above.
  2. Eternalize Ending. Being a proper ending of the game is enough to give it a spot in the misc categories.
  3. Community% (all tetrominoes, no items): it doesn't have many completed runs, but as a category it's received relatively good attention and it's the closest thing to Low% we have available.
  4. 60FPS Any%: It has three completed and recorded runs ready to be submitted (exto - me - darkid) and it will potentially grow larger in playerbase as more people who don't have the FPS requirements get more interested in talos speedruns.
  5. DLC - Admin Ending: not too sure about this one since it has literally only one recorded run, but it makes sense as a category - it just needs more runs (and perhaps routing).

If you have any arguments against this I'd like to hear them, and I'd also like to hear your thoughts about the various categories in the leaderboards, possible new categories, etc.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Washington, USA

I'd put legacy low% (29 sigils) in misc, and migrate the runs. No need to throw them all away.

Italy

Fair - just remember exto had some 29 runs before the 22 one that's currently wr on the leaderboards, so it would be necessary to revert to an older run

United States

I like the idea of having a misc category. I agree with your point except for eternalize. It is one of the main endings of the game and its route is now quite different from all other categories. It is quite a fun run to watch, IMO. Now for Admin Ending in RtG, I'm on the fence. It makes sense as a category, but I don't know if there's a single person even interested in the run. I have a feeling torrent did his run just to claim an easy record. (can't blame him)

Italy

I think you meant Transcendance there - Eternalize is literally exactly like Messenger, except it takes you a bit longer to drop the full way down. I still wouldn't put Transcendance in the main categories - it's not been run for months now, and its route is not ¤that¤ different. I'm on the edge about Transcendance still, I see why people would justify it in the main categories. I guess it's up to the community, if enough people want it in the main leaderboards it can probably be there - I just liked keeping only any%+100% for main game and DLC in the main tab, and everything else in miscellaneous.