I looked over this forum and really saw nothing regarding it. It seems like a no brainer though and I've been labbing it rather extensively. I'm interested in everyone's thoughts on this.
So far in my experience, Minimal Capture Runs provide more interesting routes and obviously more technical jumps. My viewers have also gone from being done with watching Odyssey streams to actively requesting labbing sessions of these runs.
I'm currently running with these in mind.
~ Minimal Captures ~ Only counts for Capturing NPCs. (scarcrows, switches, powerlines don't count) ~ Bosses only count as one capture. (see Madam Broodal)
Currently I've managed to complete a run with just five captures with a (unofficial time) of 1:33:35. This was during a labbing run so far from what is actually possible obviously.
Currently the following Kingdoms are completable without captures:
Cap Sand Lake Wooded Cloud Lost Snow Seaside Luncheon Ruined
Cascade requires the first moon Chain Chomp & Madam Broodal.
Metro Kingdom requires a Sherm capture for the Mecha Wriggler.
Bowser Kingom requires a Pokio for scaling the rotating wall.
Moon requires the Bowser capture.
Any idea in terms of routes? Obviously many of the typical Any% routes are good launching points, but each need some rerouting.
I appreciate the reply. Whether it's added or not isn't really something I'm personally all that fussed over. More interested in labbing it and getting opinions. ^_^
I'd be super interested in running this category! It could potentially be coupled with low% though, since I think low% is minimal captures, checkpoints, along with other things im unsure of
Thanks for the heads up. Been spending time in Discord discussing it.
I suppose if this is the case, and should I convert this thread to be about Low% runs since there doesn't seem to be anything to that effect in this forum?
we could do 450 moons min captures, cus thats the max ammount of moons you can get in the minimal ammount of captures (15)
I have routed a whole run for this, was going to post something on the forum about it along with a video, but my laptop doesn't record the capture card too well: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YGmYRZKNHCLE5pG12ku0PCbpZgITQDVJ3-on4Bk3B3I/edit?usp=sharing
You get to do some really difficult and fun techniques like the Falls skip in the Cascade Kingdom, the New Donk City Impossible skip TWICE, and some butt burning stuff in the Luncheon Kingdom.
Yeah, the Luncheon Kingdom scared me when I first routed it. Was concerned there wasn't going to be enough Moons prior to the Hammer Bro. Event Moon.
Of these feats, the Cascade Skip is the one I can't get even remotely down. It's like ten tries plus each time. lol
EDIT: And AteBallEight, that's a very good route summary.
I sorta figured out a consistent Falls skip. To get up to the crevice, long jump into the patch of grass surrounded by the two rocks, then triple jump, cap throw, dive, cap throw, dive. Once you're up there, if you angle the camera low enough at the edge, it won't get stuck in the wall and you will still be able to see Mario. I also strongly recommend diving onto the rib, just in case if Mario isn't high enough. Then you want to stand as close to the edge and as high up on the rib as possible. Position your backwards somersault, then do three wall jumps, throw Cappy towards the cliff, dive, and hope for the best! Demonstration here: https://twitter.com/AteBallEight/status/933153943223279616
I've rerouted the Cascade Kingdom and eliminated a capture. Hear me out.
You can skip the first power moon. I'll link my tweet below.
So skip the first moon. Get the Rex. Use Rex to break the cave with the power moon. Use Rex to break the 2D wall. Use Rex to break "Our First Power Moon".
This eliminates both the first and second Chain Chomps. It also gives us access to two power moons we normally wouldn't have in this run, thus making our exit a little quicker too.
if you look into the captures list a wire is a capture, so it should count. no reason not to, as it is an official capture
Sorry, yeah I've come around to that conclusion too. I'm counting them from now on. ^_^
Also uploading a quick video I just recorded regarding a potential new route for Cascade.
1080p isn't up as of the time of this post.
Just a quick / tired demonstration of the skip and how we can use Rex to optimize the Minimal Capture Route.
It doesn't change the amount of captures if you are doing the Fossil skip or the First Moon skip. You still have to fight Madam Broode because there are only 3 moons available using the T-Rex and first moon skip. Also the falls skip is much quicker (if you make it on your first few tries).
It's a much easier route but it definitely isn't quicker. Oh well. Unless some other discovery is made, I don't think it would be the best route.
Fair point, but it's a quick additional moon in case you're going to do 253 or maximum moons