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DezodDezod

(He/Him)

Pennsylvania, USA

  DezodDezod
13 Nov 2022, 19:25

I would argue that including chain chomp, bullet bill and chairs to the category would not really add anything of value to the route. You don't technically kill them, and going out of your way to release/despawn/trigger them would not be very fun (I'm specifically thinking about having to trigger all the chairs in bbh)

 

MalkierianMalkierian

Arizona, USA

  MalkierianMalkierian
23 Nov 2022, 17:48 (edited: 23 Nov 2022, 17:48)

Yeah, I hadn't updated the list in the image for a while. Had no idea about that flyguy on the cannonball route, guess I'll have to do yet another run XD. I agree with Dezod on the inclusion of the other ones. Specifically the bullet bill and chain chomp because, like you said, you don't actually kill them. I think the same would be applied to the chairs. They're more of a despawn than a kill, just like the bullet bill. That's one reason why the primary rule of the category was "Every enemy you can kill".

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SaySurpriseSaySurprise

New Mexico, USA

  SaySurpriseSaySurprise
26 Nov 2022, 05:11

I've started making a route for this and I have another question.
Should it be required to kill moles from each hole within a stage? For example in TTM, instead of killing 9 moles total from any holes, you have to kill 9 moles from different holes, i.e. 1 mole from each hole.

I haven't quite looked at either of your runs yet. I feel like this should be a requirement. Killing them from the same holes just feels silly.

 

DezodDezod

(He/Him)

Pennsylvania, USA

  DezodDezod
27 Nov 2022, 14:36

ok this run kind of fell apart but its at least a full run with no missed enemies (I think)

in response to killing the moles in the same or different holes I believe we both have been counting the mole in each hole as a different mole, i.e. one mole from each hole must be killed

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SaySurpriseSaySurprise

New Mexico, USA

  SaySurpriseSaySurprise
27 Nov 2022, 20:29

Extremely scuffed, but I got a run in. I usually run on console but decided to run on Emu for the better autosplitter and not wanting to manually split on top of remembering every enemy. I couldn't get the timing for so many things, not used to Emu haha.
Anyways it's a brutal category. It's very challenging and feels very different from other categories but those are good things imo. Not for the faint of heart, but I had fun. If this gains traction I'll pick it up again.

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MalkierianMalkierian

Arizona, USA

  MalkierianMalkierian
1 Dec 2022, 18:12

Thanks for those, guys. When I get another run in, at least we'll have three. Kind of disappointed no one else has joined up though XD

 

sennaisennai

(He/Him)

Antarctica

  sennaisennai
28 Dec 2022, 03:51

I made a new enemy sheet for everyone to use that will be updated if any new enemies are found or category rules change. feel free to message me on discord if anything needs to be changed (sennai#2600)
I'm also going to make a strat sheet to go alongside this which I will post when it's finished.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17_aXksD_MzTqszbY7wTDCjFB8Dmqp_xKnuztTVBlPMc/edit?usp=sharing

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DezodDezod

(He/Him)

Pennsylvania, USA

  DezodDezod
19 Jan 2023, 05:36

did another run, still pretty sloppy, i beefed the new bob route and lost like 2 min in vc alone lmao

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joker_speedrunerjoker_speedruner

(He/Him)

Pennsylvania, USA

  joker_speedrunerjoker_speedruner
28 Feb 2023, 07:03 (edited: 28 Feb 2023, 07:10)

I looked at the spreadsheet and I might gave this a try probably not going to record it probably just going to send a screenshot of my time hope that's fine

 

SaySurpriseSaySurprise

New Mexico, USA

  SaySurpriseSaySurprise
28 Feb 2023, 08:17

Join the CE discord, there is important, more up-to-date info on this category: https://discord.gg/vrt69WfB

 
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