Forums  /  Sonic 3 & Knuckles  /  I came up with a new category, how does it sound? (Locked)
  Battle_PlaysBattle_Plays

So I was thinking about this the other day, and i wondered if it was really a thing. I came up with Debug% for Sonic 1, Sonic 2, and Sonic 3 & Knuckles (but mostly for S3&K). I’ve only done it for Sonic 3 & Knuckles. What I did was I unlocked the sound test option, went to Death Egg Zone Act 2 and beat the bosses in the level. Run ends when you land the final hit. My time was 10:35. I will do a new run and upload it to my YouTube channel (if Mobizen Editor will work on my phone)

 
  DrakodanDrakodan

So you just used Level Select to go to the last stage, then.

Can't see this catching on.

 
  BenInSwedenBenInSweden

This feels very arbitrary, and 10:35 sounds very long if I'm understanding the point of the run.
Start a run, enable level select, get to MH1, enable debug, reset enter doomsday 2 with debug, defeat bosses.

is about 2:50 using normal S3K timing (start from the save select screen to fade out) and has plenty of mistakes to it, that could make it shorter.
Using Sonic from the get-go would add about 20s due to the AI cutscene, but under 3 minutes would be easy.

And the run doesn't really show anything of interest, to be honest. Getting to the vine and pulley has very little in the way of speed tech, and the boss is just cheesed because debug mode gives you access to instant hyper sonic, except for the last phase for some reason. And having to avoid pressing buttons that affect things due to Debug mode.

 
  Battle_PlaysBattle_Plays

Actually, I didn’t really activate Debug Mode. I just thought that Debug% sounds better than Sound Test%, and i’m Only 14 so....

 
  LunkheadLunkhead

I can't really see this becoming a category for reasons listed above, but if you're new to the game or speedrunning in general then I totally recommend running it. I'm sure it will teach you a lot about what to expect when speedrunning and it may give you a grasp of the mechanics of S3&K. Ben's already given you a great benchmark to try and beat. Even it doesn't become a category, you'll still get great satisfaction out of polishing this route and your own idea. I say go for it! 🙂

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  BenInSwedenBenInSweden

To be honest, the category you're after already basically exists, without any ambiguities of what the rules will entail:
https://www.speedrun.com/s3k/Death_Egg_2
Time to get level select isn't included, but I don't think there's much interest in that side of things anyway, the rest is just down to how fast you complete Death Egg 2 (where in that category the actual level is required).

 
  Battle_PlaysBattle_Plays

Well anyway, thanks for listening and for the help