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StevenMayteStevenMayte

England

  StevenMayteStevenMayte
13 Oct 2020, 15:01

PAL runs aren't tracked here but even if they were it wouldn't be separate because filters exist. The platforms you mention get VERY little runs submitted to them since the PC version is so accessable now thanks to the Rebirth patch, no need for further separation at this time.

 

StevenMayteStevenMayte

England

  StevenMayteStevenMayte
13 Oct 2020, 15:10

You need a Japanese PSN account to get the Japanese version

 

StevenMayteStevenMayte

England

  StevenMayteStevenMayte
13 Oct 2020, 15:22

Well playstation speedrunning is a mess, You could have a Japanese PS2 and still be at a disadvantage because someone has a more optimal PS2 SCPH model. Also again, filters exist. If you Wana see certain PS console runs use the filter. Japanese version being the fastest isn't anything new

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deserteagle417deserteagle417

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United States

  deserteagle417deserteagle417
13 Oct 2020, 15:35

Filters exist, use them. We're not creating pointless separations. These are all ways to play the same version of the game on console. We don't need a million categories so people can spam meaningless and pointless empty categories for free "world records".

 

PiedrasoPiedraso

Spain

  PiedrasoPiedraso
13 Oct 2020, 15:46

In my comment I was not talking about having a wr or not having it, but playing an emulated game on ps3 with ps2 disk seems to me to be wrong. But hey, if the community has decided, that's fine with me.

 

deserteagle417deserteagle417

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United States

  deserteagle417deserteagle417
13 Oct 2020, 15:55

It's been a settled standard for several years, yea. PS2 is the fastest way to play PS console, and as Steven pointed out, even then you need the correct version. It's just the nature of disc based console speedrunning. There's dozens of variables at play and it's pointless to track every single one. And other games absolutely do not separate out every single console variable.

As for the stuff about free world records, I wasn't saying you specifically but in general this is what happens when you have 70 subcategories in a game, there's people who love to just go spam empty categories that are obscure and no one is going to run. If you're curious who's the best on this particular set of variables filters exist to do that

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deserteagle417deserteagle417

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United States

  deserteagle417deserteagle417
13 Oct 2020, 18:33

Those are all different ports of the same game. We're not separating based off of which console you decide to put your PS1 disc into.

 

StevenMayteStevenMayte

England

  StevenMayteStevenMayte
13 Oct 2020, 18:58 (edited: 13 Oct 2020, 18:59)

play what you want to play, why are you letting a default position on a leaderboard stop you from running it?

To me that says you just want a quick easy WR for your profile lol

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LivLiv

(She/Her, They/Them)

United Kingdom

  LivLiv
13 Oct 2020, 20:22 (edited: 13 Oct 2020, 20:43)

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Whoever has played it in Japanese on psn is because they have converted an iso into pkg.

What in god's name are you talking about?

https://store.playstation.com/en-HK/product/HP0102-NPHJ00003_00-COMBINE000000001

https://store.playstation.com/ja-jp/product/JP0102-NPJJ00004_00-COMBINE000000001

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LivLiv

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United Kingdom

  LivLiv
13 Oct 2020, 20:36 (edited: 13 Oct 2020, 20:44)

The game is available on PSN in Japanese, though:

https://store.playstation.com/en-HK/product/HP0102-NPHJ00003_00-COMBINE000000001 (Chinese Store)

https://store.playstation.com/ja-jp/product/JP0102-NPJJ00004_00-COMBINE000000001 (Japanese Store)

Saying they're all hacked is simply wrong. I especially know Zenix would not use a hacked version underhandedly.

I don't know where you two ever got the idea the game doesn't exist in Japanese on the PSN store.

 

LivLiv

(She/Her, They/Them)

United Kingdom

  LivLiv
13 Oct 2020, 20:49 (edited: 13 Oct 2020, 20:53)

???

Did you not click the two direct links to the PSN store I just provided you? The Japanese version exists on PSN, you were wrong. Simple as.

Also using "it'll bring more players into the community" as a justification for any change period is a fallacy. You absolutely should never base any kind of argument for change on that.

Anyway I just came to shoot down the thought that these games aren't on the Japanese PSN store, because it's very clearly obvious neither of you looked. Took me like 30 seconds to find listings on both Asian stores.

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LivLiv

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United Kingdom

  LivLiv
13 Oct 2020, 21:02 (edited: 13 Oct 2020, 21:06)

....

Just lol, is this really what it takes to simply admit you were wrong?

One of those links is the direct Japanese Playstation Store, the other is the store from Hong Kong, and even that version ONLY uses the Japanese version as indicated by the big "(JAPANESE VERS.)" at the top of the page.

Even in this rather simple thing you're wasting people's time because you're playing dumb to try save face or are just genuinely incapable of reading. So, I can't say I'd be surprised if mods just didn't bother with your rather large request on a poor basis.

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LivLiv

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United Kingdom

  LivLiv
13 Oct 2020, 21:41 (edited: 13 Oct 2020, 21:43)

I'm not expecting respect from anyone and honestly do not care if you respect me or not, but really you lose my respect when you're provided with evidence you're wrong several times and instead of trying to understand what you failed to understand better, you intentionally try to avoid accepting you were wrong and stick with your flawed, incorrect information.

 

Nova_lyneNova_lyne

Québec

  Nova_lyneNova_lyne
13 Oct 2020, 21:42

Why can't you just check directly on the Ps3 store with a japanese account?
I clicked on the Link Liv provided and I can see it. It seems you just want to get things done your way,
by criticizing the moderators. If it was such a problem, I guess there wouldn't have been so many people to run RE1.

And for Zenix, you can see just under his video he used the version from the PSN. " Played on PSN Download [JPN] on 2016-10-02 "

Or else just play on pc.

 

PiedrasoPiedraso

Spain

  PiedrasoPiedraso
13 Oct 2020, 21:44 (edited: 13 Oct 2020, 21:49)

@Arlequinn_madnessArlequinn_madness Just I saw the link when Liv passed it and I didn't say anything else.
I didn't see any other person who runs the game I do it because I feel like it and in the store that I have looked I have not seen the game in English and PAL that is all.

@LivLiv I think you have the wrong person, as soon as you have passed the links I have not said anything.

 

Nova_lyneNova_lyne

Québec

  Nova_lyneNova_lyne
13 Oct 2020, 22:41 (edited: 13 Oct 2020, 22:50)

Not accusing anyone? well why then he would accuse Zenix to play with an "hacked" game when he doesn't have any proofs?

BLing said :
One more fact, the resident evil PS1 does not exist in PSN JAPAN
https://www.speedrun.com/re1/run/7ylx2lxy
https://www.speedrun.com/re1/run/0y6e68pz
https://www.speedrun.com/re1/run/zq3x8nxy
Those three races are played on a hacked ps3, no PSN JAP

Because he can't find it doesn't mean other people are using hacked game. You have to search the game by typing bio hazard and not biohazard (cause you won't find the 1 that way). It's not that complicated

Also if it's because the version is the director cut, and not the original, well he can clearly run on PC like everyone. It's the easiest way

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LivLiv

(She/Her, They/Them)

United Kingdom

  LivLiv
14 Oct 2020, 00:10 (edited: 14 Oct 2020, 00:11)

Well, when something has to be reiterated several times because posts aren't being read properly and you're replying back with stuff like:

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You are very sure that it does not use a hacked console and is running an ISO xD

when the entire basis for that line of thinking was that PSN didn't have a Japanese version, and two links to that version had just been sent in the very prior post, you can probably see why people are getting frustrated and don't bother with discussion when something pretty short and straight to the point is just being glossed over completely.

As for what happens on my social networks, it's really no one else's concern. SR.C has its own policies and rules, regarding what can or cannot be posted on their website, but they are not the police of every online service one can use, nor should they try to be.

You yourself have shown a total lack of respect in the past in many games and at many players, several of them being Resident Evil. It is pretty amusing that after displaying such utter disrespect in the past, that you get so upset at one remark.

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StevenMayteStevenMayte

England

  StevenMayteStevenMayte
14 Oct 2020, 00:23

> things do not change even if several people want it to change and the consoles separate.

literally 2 people asking for change that haven't even submitted a run, the last PSN/PS3 run submitted to the leaderboard was over a year ago and 6 runs total in the 5-6 years we've had a leaderboard on this site, i think that speaks volumes of how popular it is and speaks for itself that it has no need to be separated.

So nah we're not separating anything, are we done here ?

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  [user deleted]
14 Oct 2020, 00:52

Play the platform that you like and use the filters 🙂 making a separation of a simple console is not worth for this game which the main platforms were separated, you should thanks to the mods which the current leaderboards looks awesome and they've been providing reasons and support to runners who are starting why the things are stabilished as you see and why looks cool for the 989% of the people except you 🙂

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clix_gamingclix_gaming

California, USA

  clix_gamingclix_gaming
14 Oct 2020, 18:24

Shut up, I'm trying to enjoy my morning coffee here.

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