Full Game Leaderboards.
8 years ago
Ireland

Given that the RE2 boards have been made Full Game by default, and it looks a lot cleaner, I think that these boards should follow the same steps. Thoughts?

Skywheel likes this
California, USA

If you can, please vote here: https://twitter.com/dudleyc_/status/683434806797991936

I would like to see the transition to full-game leaderboard as well. Look at the RE2 boards and how clean they look. Then, go to the RE1 boards

Here's what I feel like should be done:

  • Move Arrange to misc (variables get messy...)

  • Removal of Magnum% (SuperGamer57 proved that it is just as fast as a 2 cycle worm GL run)

  • Move Knife Nemesis% to misc (or possible removal)

  • Addition of Mimethrower% dudsLmao

But in all seriousness, I would like to see everyone's thoughts posted here.

(kidding about memethrower%)

California, USA

Carc is unable to post right now but here are his thoughts on the subject:

[quote=CarcinogenSDA]i like those ideas, but minethrower should be a yes/no and grenade/magnum/knife should stay under a primary weapon dropdown. any% and nemesis kills should be their own dropdown. should be called nemesis kills and not nemesis% or knife% as that is not the proper use of the % denominator and looks like a shitty meme category to people. the only % is low%, any%, and 100%.[/quote]

To be clear: I was kidding about Memethrower%. Anyway, I think we should really take advantage of Misc. categories for arrange and knife nemmy. I abhor variables on this site cause they add unranked runs to the board

Strife_Cloud likes this
California, USA

Anything goes for Misc. categories imo. It would be funny to see some competition in no damage haha

And Liv, can you confirm that PAL timer is indeed RTA like the rest? I think the only reason its banned is because it is thought to be based on frames. I was sure it was RTA...

California, USA

Ah, okay. Thanks. So RE3 PAL's timer will run slower (allowing for easier reaction time)? If that's so, It -should- be banned still.

California, USA

Ah, that's what I was getting at, Liv. Sorry, your description confused me :P

I'll allow PAL, then.

I feel like it's not looking good for full game.

I felt the boards were already easy to navigate for level leaderboards.

Well it's not like we have categories with a million variables attached to it (Knife, Damage, Files, Barry Ending, etc.). The level boards are already simple to navigate.

And honestly, if your game has over 14 categories, and then 5 platforms that are recognized individually, there's no good way you're gonna make it look organized and clean (you have to account for 70 different possibilities, and then more if you have variables).

Another problem with full game boards and eliminating/combining categories is that it will not give more reason to continue speed running the game. It makes other categories look obsolete (such as Arrange, Knife Nemesis, etc.) since it just gets thrown at the bottom of the leader board.

I still agree with the removal of magnum% since it's only there for a subjective sake (though it is annoying to constantly reset a magnum Kappa)

I haven't had an issue with the state of the current level boards.

Roxy_Rose and RebeccaRE like this
Chile

Full leaderboard is confusing for me. There's more categories than RE2

  • Move Arrange to misc (variables get messy...) : I'm not pc speedrunner so I'm neutral

  • Removal of Magnum% (SuperGamer57 proved that it is just as fast as a 2 cycle worm GL run): Editing... I'm worried for some runner that run this category with awesome strats like Roxy. So Idk what to say about it but I think this new leaderboard would be very complicated.

  • Move Knife Nemesis% to misc (or possible removal: I'm running this category actually and doing some strats. It's challenge-speedrun category and I want to keep it.

  • Addition of Mimethrower% : dudsLmao do it.

I'm worried about my GC and GC/emu runs if you do full leaderboard. I wanna keep both platforms :(

Roxy_Rose likes this
Chile

And I think full leaderboards for new speedrunners would be a pain. Very confusing

Sรฃo Paulo, Brazil

-I think the leaderboard should stay the way it is cause for me it's already organized.

-I think arrange and knife nemesis must stay the way it is, cause changing it to misc will make these category look obsolete.

  • I don't like the idea of removing magnum%, there are seven people that run this category, and maybe they want to keep running it with their times in speedrun.com

  • Changing the names looks like a good ideia :)

insanebb and RebeccaRE like this
California, USA

After some tallying... It looks like Full-game Leaderboards are go. 5-4 in this thread, 87% to 13% in the Twitter poll, both in Full-game Leaderboard's favor.

The following changes have been made:

  • Transition to Full-game Leaderboard

  • Removal of Magnum% (it's just as fast as any% with 2-cycle worm)

  • Arrange moved to misc categories (any% only; may or may not stay)

  • Knife Nemesis% move to misc categories

  • Addition of No Damage to misc categories

  • Nemesis% will keep its "%" as its already been adopted by the community as such

  • Level Leaderboards will remain for a bit as we are transitioning

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Trance - Yes Dudley - Yes Strife_Cloud - Yes

FurryWulfz - Either

Julian - No Rebecca - No Roxy_Rose - No Me - No

Seems legit Kappa

Roxy_Rose likes this

Also, No Damage needs a clearer definition of what is "damage."

Does the Steam Room count? Acid from the containers?

I would say anything that does the hurting animation during gameplay will count.

Chile

I'm still thinking... If magnum% is removed many people will leave RE 3 speedruns :/. I'm worried about Roxy specially because she loves that category

insanebb likes this
Chile

Where's minethrower% no damage? dudsLmao

Argentina

My opinion:

  1. Get rid of Arrange.

"The Zombie damage shouldn't even be a reason to have a new category, because you're supposed to be avoiding damage. Taking enough bites to go on caution before a FAS in either Original OR Arrange makes it a bad run already. " - PC runner here, I totally agree with this.

  1. Magnum% : I dont really care about Magnum%, but some runners do, and Im worried about people dropping the game, so I'll be neutral on the Magnum% discussion.

3.Knife Nemesis : Should stay Its an interesting category, more interesting than Knife only imo.

memethrower% Kreygasm