So I'm coming back to one of my old games, it's a board I inherited from inactive mods in fact, and lo and behold both the first place and second place runs are now dead links. Both runners appear to have deleted all their VOD's. One video was YouTube, one was twitch, and both accounts are cleared out (not deleted, but emptied).
I'd ordinarily be in favour of nuking such runs, but I saw both of these runs (hell, I verified the second place run myself). I know for a fact they existed. They just don't anymore. I don't honestly know if it's right for the leaderboard to continue to list them though.
Imagine being a new runner finding this board. There's no proof of the WR. It, in a very real sense, does no longer exist.
Personally, I don't really care if runs that I verified are deleted later; But I will remove the WR run from the leaderboard if it has no video.
There's no one right answer; it's really up to the community (i.e., you) to decide whether you want to prioritize historical accuracy or ease of access. That said, there's nothing stopping you keeping track of this outside the leaderboard, though it won't integrate with the Statistics page then.
I was thinking that maybe adding some sort of "Archiving" method for runs would benefit the site for cases like this: you could mark the run as archived (which you could decide whether it's shown or hidden by default), and that way you could distinguish "active/live" runs from runs that once had a video or proof in general but no longer do so.
You could achieve something similar to this using variables, but as far as I know those variables would then proceed to show up in the submit form for runners, making it less than ideal.
[QUOTE=EmeraldAly] Imagine being a new runner finding this board. There's no proof of the WR. It, in a very real sense, does no longer exist. [/QUOTE] It happens even in a game I moderate: https://www.speedrun.com/mcbe/run/yj12xxdy
I often get new runners asking about this run and if its real, it is the WR by a mile after all, but I just tell them that it is real and that I saw them live. 99% of the time the new runner(s) are understanding and are totally fine with the run being listed. I do not think there is an issue.
Also I would rather have some random runner be a little upset than remove runs that I know for a fact are 100% legit from the leaderboards because the video was lost (which will inevitably happen to all runs)
Yeah, I'd rather leave it on the board when it was a legit run that people have seen before it got deleted, especially if it still is WR. It is part of the history of the game. Things like that will happen a lot in all games over time. I also would consider adding a mod note to said runs to avoid everyone asking/getting upset over the missing video.
