Emulator to Hardware Retimings
2 years ago
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As there's a text limit on run descriptions, I'll be putting this here.

Runs qualifying for 4th place or higher and run on emulation have to be retimed in order to be fair to hardware runners, while not excluding people from using emulation.

DeSmuME on average loads 0.6 seconds faster than hardware. MelonDS on average loads 0.15 seconds faster than hardware.

This can change due to the power of the machine running the emulator, so for now, retiming is a very slow process.

The following is a place for the moderators to show all the retiming work done on emulator runs.

United States

Hikarutetrio, March 08, 2022:

Timing Notes: My run: 30fps video Enu's: 60fps Hikaru's: 52.314fps (possibly from inconsistent stream bitrate)

My run is used for some timings due to route differences.

New File to Intro (timed from first frame "replacing save" prompt appears to first frame before intro text appears.)

H: 1.067 ENU: 2.117 diff: 1.05

(Normal load screens- first frame GUI disappears to first frame Raguna renders in, unless specified otherwise.)

Mist House to Farm: H: 0.933 ENU: 1.833 diff: 0.9

Farm to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 Enu: 1.116 diff: 0.483

Kardia 1 to Clinic: H: 0.650 Enu: 1.217 diff: 0.567

Clinic to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 E: 1.117 diff: 0.484

Kardia 1 to Kardia 2: H: 0.650 E: 1.066 diff: 0.416

Kardia 2 to Kardia 3: H: 0.633 E: 1.066 diff: 0.433

Kardia 3 to Kardia 2: H: 0.600 E: 1.067 diff: 0.467

Kardia 2 to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 E: 1.050 diff: 0.417

Kardia 1 to Farm: H: 0.783 E: 1.550 diff: 0.767

Farm to House: H: 0.650 E: 1.150 diff: 0.5

Pass out to Clinic: (timed from the frame the grass disappears to first frame of the text box appearing) H: 6.483 E: 7.500 diff: 1.017

Clinic to Kardia 1: H: 0.660 E: 1.100 diff: 0.44

Kardia 1 to Clinic: H: 0.684 E: 1.216 diff: 0.532

Clinic to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 E: 1.100 diff: 0.467

Kardia 1 to Library: H: 0.650 ODW: 1.233 (Enu's route doesn't go here) diff: 0.583

Library to Kardia 1: H: 0.616 ODW: 1.067 diff: 0.451

Kardia 1 to Smithy: H: 0.65 E: 1.167 diff. 0.517

Smithy warp to House: H: 3.666 ODW: 4.467 diff: 0.801

Farm to house post warp (first frame Raguna turns around to first frame renders): H: 0.75 (first try) ODW: 1.267 diff: 0.517

House to farm: H: 1.1 ODW: 1.6 diff: 0.5

Farm to outside toros cave: H: 0.667 ODW: 1.433 Enu: 1.45 diff: 0.783

Outside toros to lake: H: 0.684 ODW: 1.300 Enu: 1.317 diff: 0.633

Lake to forking cave: H: 0.650 Enu: 1.016 diff: 0.366

Forking cave to Greed: (last frame of dialogue box to first re-render of Raguna) H: 0.75 Enu: 1.534 diff: 0.784

Greed entrance to Greed 1: H: 0.733 Enu: 1.317 diff: 0.584

Greed 1 to Greed 2: H: 0.717 Enu: 1.350 diff: 0.633

Greed 2 to Greed 3: H: 0.7 Enu: 1.383 diff: 0.683

Greed 3 to Greed 4: H: 0.733 Enu: 1.383 diff: 0.65

Greed 4 to Greed End: H: 0.651 Enu: 1.150 diff: 0.499‬

Greed End to Grimoire Arena: (last frame of dialogue to first frame of GUI) H: 1.316 Enu: 2.233 diff: 0.917‬

Grimoire Arena to house front: H: 1.933 Enu: 3.217 diff: 1.284‬

House to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 Enu: 1.067 diff: 0.434

Kardia 1 to Kardia 2: H: 0.634 Enu: 1.067 diff: 0.433

Kardia 2 to Kardia 3: H: 0.633 Enu: 1.117 diff: 0.484

Kardia 3 to Farm Teleport: (first frame of arms down, to first frame of top screen fade showing) H: 3.667 ODW: 4.434 (Enu has to walk) diff: 0.767

Farm to Outside Toros: H: 0.683 Enu: 1.366 diff: 0.683

Outside Toros to Misty Bloom: H: 0.650 Enu: 1.25 diff: 0.6

Misty Bloom to Sechs Border: H: 0.7 Enu: 1.5 diff: 0.8

Total Load Time Difference: 23.276

Unadjusted Time: 19:50.633 (first frame of selecting save slot to firs frame of loss of control)

Final Adjusted Time: 20:13.909

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Hikaru2 vs. Enu timing adjust: 5/17/2022 --30FPS--

Load 1- New file to intro (timed from first frame "replacing save" prompt appears to first frame before intro text appears.)

H: 1.034 ENU: 2.117 diff: 1.083

(Normal load screens- first frame GUI disappears to first frame Raguna renders in)

Mist House to Farm: H: 0.966 ENU: 1.833 diff: 0.867

Farm to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 Enu: 1.116 diff: 0.483

Kardia 1 to Clinic: H: 0.667 Enu: 1.217 diff: 0.555

Clinic to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 E: 1.117 diff: 0.484

Kardia 1 to Kardia 2: H: 0.666 E: 1.066 diff: 0.400

Kardia 2 to Kardia 3: H: 0.633 E: 1.066 diff: 0.433

Kardia 3 to Kardia 2: H: 0.634 E: 1.067 diff: 0.433

Kardia 2 to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 E: 1.050 diff: 0.417

Kardia 1 to Farm: H: 0.766 E: 1.550 diff: 0.784

Farm to House: H: 0.633 E: 1.150 diff: 0.517

Pass out to Clinic: (timed from the frame the grass disappears to first frame of the text box appearing) H: 6.467 E: 7.500 diff: 1.033

Clinic to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 E: 1.100 diff: 0.467

Kardia 1 to Clinic: H: 0.666 E: 1.216 diff: 0.550

Clinic to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 E: 1.100 diff: 0.467

Kardia 1 to Library: H: 0.633 ODW: 1.233 (Enu's route doesn't go here) diff: 0.600

8.473 total so far

still a faster segment than my run at this point

Library to Kardia 1: H: 0.634 ODW: 1.067 diff: 0.433

Kardia 1 to Smithy: H: 0.666 E: 1.167 diff. 0.500

Smithy warp to House: (First frame white shows from top to first frame Raguna fully on ground) H: 3.567 ODW: 4.367 diff: 0.800

Farm to house post warp (first frame Raguna turns around to first frame renders): H: 0.767 (first try) ODW: 1.267 diff: 0.500

House to farm: H: 0.8 ODW: 1.6 diff: 0.6

Farm to outside toros cave: H: 0.700 ODW: 1.433 Enu: 1.45 diff: 0.733

Outside toros to lake: H: 0.833 ODW: 1.300 Enu: 1.317 diff: 0.467

Lake to forking cave: H: 0.667 Enu: 1.016 diff: 0.350

Forking cave to Greed: (last frame of dialogue box to first re-render of Raguna) H: 0.733 Enu: 1.534 diff: 0.801

Greed entrance to Greed 1: H: 0.700 Enu: 1.317 diff: 0.584

Greed 1 to Greed 2: H: 0.734 Enu: 1.350 diff: 0.616

Greed 2 to Greed 3: H: 0.733 Enu: 1.383 diff: 0.650

Greed 3 to Greed 4: H: 0.700 Enu: 1.383 diff: 0.688

Greed 4 to Greed End: H: 0.667 Enu: 1.150 diff: 0.483

Greed End to Grimoire Arena: (last frame of dialogue to first frame of GUI) H: 1.334 Enu: 2.233 diff: 0.900

Grimoire Arena to house front: (last of dialogue to first of dialogue) H: 1.966 ODW: 3.267 diff: 1.301

House to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 Enu: 1.067 diff: 0.434

Kardia 1 to Kardia 2: H: 0.667 Enu: 1.067 diff: 0.400

Kardia 2 to Kardia 3: H: 0.633 Enu: 1.117 diff: 0.484

Kardia 3 to Farm Teleport: (first frame of arms down, to first frame of top screen fade showing) H: 3.634 ODW: 4.434 (Enu has to walk) diff: 0.800

Farm to Outside Toros: H: 0.700 Enu: 1.366 diff: 0.666

Outside Toros to Misty Bloom: H: 0.634 Enu: 1.25 diff: 0.616

Misty Bloom to Sechs Border: H: 0.7 Enu: 1.5 diff: 0.8

Total Load Time Difference: 23.095 (Last run: 23.276)

Loss of Control: 19:43:42

Final Time: 20:06:515

Edited by the author 1 year ago
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Hikaru 3 vs. Enu timing adjust

--30FPS--

(30FPS video of a 60FPS game can take either 1 of 2 frames, this makes for an uncountable loss of .016 seconds that can occur in most loading screens.)

Load 1- New file to intro (timed from first frame "replacing save" prompt appears to first frame before intro text appears.)

H: 1.101 ENU: 2.117 ODW: 2.133 diff: 1.016

(Normal load screens- first frame GUI disappears to first frame Raguna renders in)

Mist House to Farm: H: 0.966 ENU: 1.833 diff: 0.867

Farm to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 Enu: 1.116 diff: 0.483

Kardia 1 to Clinic: H: 0.667 Enu: 1.217 diff: 0.555

Clinic to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 E: 1.117 diff: 0.484

Kardia 1 to Kardia 2: H: 0.633 E: 1.066 diff: 0.433

Kardia 2 to Kardia 3: H: 0.633 E: 1.066 diff: 0.433

Kardia 3 to Kardia 2: H: 0.634 E: 1.067 diff: 0.433

Kardia 2 to Kardia 1: H: 0.666 E: 1.050 diff: 0.384

Kardia 1 to Farm: H: 0.800 E: 1.550 diff: 0.750

Farm to House: H: 0.633 E: 1.150 diff: 0.517

Pass out to Clinic: (timed from the frame the grass disappears to first frame of the text box appearing) H: 6.467 E: 7.500 diff: 1.033

Clinic to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 E: 1.100 diff: 0.467

Kardia 1 to Clinic: H: 0.666 E: 1.216 diff: 0.550

Clinic to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 E: 1.100 diff: 0.467

Kardia 1 to Library: H: 0.667 ODW: 1.233 (Enu's route doesn't go here) diff: 0.633

Library to Kardia 1: H: 0.634 ODW: 1.067 diff: 0.433

Kardia 1 to Smithy: H: 0.634 E: 1.167 diff. 0.533

Smithy warp to House: (First frame white shows from top to first frame Raguna fully on ground) H: 3.567 ODW: 4.367 diff: 0.800

Farm to house post warp (first frame Raguna turns around to first frame renders): H: 0.767 (first try) ODW: 1.267 diff: 0.500

House to farm: H: 0.8 ODW: 1.6 diff: 0.6

Farm to outside toros cave: H: 0.700 ODW: 1.433 Enu: 1.45 diff: 0.733

Outside toros to lake: H: 0.667 ODW: 1.300 Enu: 1.317 diff: 0.650

Lake to forking cave: H: 0.633 Enu: 1.016 diff: 0.383

Forking cave to Greed: (last frame of dialogue box to first re-render of Raguna) H: 0.766 Enu: 1.534 diff: 0.768

Greed entrance to Greed 1: H: 0.734 Enu: 1.317 diff: 0.584

Greed 1 to Greed 2: H: 0.734 Enu: 1.350 diff: 0.616

Greed 2 to Greed 3: H: 0.700 Enu: 1.383 diff: 0.683

Greed 3 to Greed 4: H: 0.734 Enu: 1.383 diff: 0.649

Greed 4 to Greed End: H: 0.633 Enu: 1.150 diff: 0.450

Greed End to Grimoire Arena: (last frame of dialogue to first frame of GUI) H: 1.334 Enu: 2.233 diff: 0.900

Grimoire Arena to house front: (last of dialogue to first of dialogue) H: 1.966 ODW: 3.267 diff: 1.301

House to Kardia 1: H: 0.633 Enu: 1.067 diff: 0.434

Kardia 1 to Kardia 2: H: 0.633 Enu: 1.067 diff: 0.434

Kardia 2 to Kardia 3: H: 0.633 Enu: 1.117 diff: 0.484

Kardia 3 to Farm Teleport: (first frame of arms down, to first frame of top screen fade showing) H: 3.666 ODW: 4.434 (Enu has to walk) diff: 0.768

Farm to Outside Toros: H: 0.700 Enu: 1.366 diff: 0.666

Outside Toros to Misty Bloom: H: 0.666 Enu: 1.25 diff: 0.584

Misty Bloom to Sechs Border: H: 0.7 Enu: 1.5 diff: 0.8

Total Load Time Difference: 24.258 (Last run: 23.095)

Loss of Control: 19:25:801

Final Time: 19:50:057

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