Request new category
4 years ago
United States

I have just completed my first SNES WARP speedrun using the Gate Thief sprite scramble. Any time you use a Warp Glitch in SNES version, the Prince's sprite is scrambled. Many different combinations of animation frames are possible, depending on where, when, and how many glitches you do.

As you can see in the current submissions for SNES WARP, the level 8 warp causes the Prince's running animation to alternate between a running and a standing pose. He makes a weird crouch while climbing, and temporarily becomes a brown Sword (it looks like a red ribbon) at the end of the climbing sequence.

Other warps can cause the Prince to temporarily look like a guard, skeleton, or even Jaffar. The Gate Thief is a little bit of everything. Sometimes the Prince, sometimes a guard, and sometimes a Sword. When you are the Gate Thief, some of the Sword frames are parallel to the ground, and at that moment, the Prince can slide underneath a closed gate.

This ability has its limitations. It is by no means easy in all instances. And if you make a mistake, you can still collide with the gate, and lose time.

Because this limited ability makes such a huge difference in the game, and the different routes that can be taken, I think it is appropriate to have a different SNES "Gate Thief" category for runs using these glitches.

Personally, I am very interested in leaving the SNES Warp category the way it is, with no gates skipped, so that I can compete in that longer format.

My record for Gate Thief is 20:15.993. This is 4 minutes 13 seconds faster than the SNES Warp record.

I will provide a link now, to YouTube, so that everyone can see the run, and the details, while considering my request for a new category. If the idea is approved, and the new category created, I will officially submit this run for it.

Edited by the author 4 years ago
Skinomarsh likes this
Québec

in my opinion it should be part of the same category as warp%, congratulations for your run

Québec

Do you think there is a way to teleport to level 8 instead of level 6?

Québec

should make your run with a capture card and a timer, it would be more beautiful to watch

United States

This is Gate Thief #1. Each Gate Thief is vulnerable to being rescrambled by certain warps, which would change the animation, and lose the Sword, and lose the gate-skipping ability.

Gate Thieves #1 and #3 can only warp to level 6. Whereas, Gate Thief #2 can only warp to level 8.

I might consider getting a capture card now. This speed-running is fun!

I really would prefer to have different categories, because I want to push myself to make a record for the non-gate thief routes.

Also, please notice that the 20:15 time here is a coincidence. This was not the reference I made in the other thread, when I said I could maybe get 20:15 for the non-gate thief routes.

Of course you can see the advantage for the Gate Thief. Even with 3 minutes of glitches, and 2 extra levels, he runs the levels in 17 minutes! Lol.

Edited by the author 4 years ago
Québec

if it is part of a new category I will surely make a new run with this one

European Union

I don't see a point in making a new category over this as this clearly falls under the whole Warp thing. However, we could introduce a variable for the different routes (much like Dark souls for example does ) which then could be filtered out, i.e. if someone wants to see the fastest non-Gate Thief time, one can use the respective filter on the board to only see the runs he is interested in.

Either way, given the recent activity of SNES as well as the differences to the main game it's probably best to give this port it's own leaderboard (as also requested by several people over the last days)--so please do not worry if the SNES subcategory vanishes from this board.

Edit: Following up on what I wrote earlier, I will lock this thread here but of course the discussion may be continued over at the new SNES board.

Edited by the author 4 years ago