Bait Strat
9 years ago
Québec

karl_k's strat

JOEdrinksBEER, S. and 2 others like this
Tokyo, Japan

Our discussion in the comments, you should definitely read it before you use this strat in a serious attempt.

Márton Nagy 1 day ago Nice, now I don't have to worry about dying every time I get a good pattern. Thank you, guys. This is gonna make things easier.

Ssj4vegeto50 1 day ago +Márton Nagy Just a reminder, but don't squish/hurt any of the yakuza while backing up, they will shoot at you afterwards. Hitting some after leaving is less of an issue though

Márton Nagy 1 day ago +Ssj4vegeto50 I will keep that in mind, thanks!

Márton Nagy 1 day ago +Ssj4vegeto50 The fact that the friendly AI sometimes doesnt work makes this rather inconsistent for me. If I get a good pattern and they shoot the first car I can use two rockets to blow up the other two cars, but if the AI dies before the first car, I am dead. Also, if I get a bad pattern and the dam guy takes ages to get to the trap, I am dead 100% if the AI can't deal with the second car.

However, if the AI works and shoots the cars, it works pretty much every time.

Question: am I doing something wrong that makes the AI not shoot the cars?

Márton Nagy 1 day ago +Ssj4vegeto50 Maybe I reverse too far into that little parking space, I am gonna try it again tomorrow and update you guys with the results.

Ssj4vegeto50 1 day ago +Márton Nagy I wouldn't think there would be any problem going further backwards. I tried maybe 10-15 bait's and only got 1 where the AI almost didn't kill the second car, but other than that it was fine... I haven't yet seen a pattern where I get two cars at the same time, so I'm worried there could be something that could go wrong there also.

I feel like Bait is always going to be riddled with some form of AI RNG. At any rate, there were also consistency issues with the other strategy too, with the exception that you could help out the Yakuza's by drive-by shooting the Cartel.

I guess I will always have that worry in the back of my head about whether or not "this will be the run that the strat doesn't work on" or something like that, but at the same time I really need the small time save (2-8s (depending on the car you would have gotten off the road)). I'm not sure if I've explained this before, but to catch the optimal bridge cycle on E2G, you have to play nearly perfectly from gtaero and on to catch the bridge. Missing a bridge cycle loses around 26s real time. Read more

Márton Nagy 22 hours ago +Ssj4vegeto50 I have gotten a pattern with all the cars arriving at the same time, it worked, but the third car got really close to my plane so that blowing it up was rather risky. I will try to highlight that later today. I will also highlight the dead AI ones.

Márton Nagy 14 hours ago +Ssj4vegeto50 here is the vod of the good pattern that almost killed me: http://www.twitch.tv/blacklev/c/6572011

Here is a vod that has the AI freeze in it: http://www.twitch.tv/blacklev/c/6572026

Ssj4vegeto50 13 hours ago +Márton Nagy hmm... I just did a random attempt and got the ai freeze too. Maybe my savefile is the answer as to why it was more consistent during trial runs of it. If this keeps occurring during attempts we'll just have to completely forget about this strat and return to the other one.

Ssj4vegeto50 13 hours ago +Márton Nagy This reminds me of what happens in Liberator where you double tap f1 to freeze them, so maybe there would be a way to unfreeze them? Some testing is in order I think

Márton Nagy 8 hours ago +Ssj4vegeto50 it would be interesting to see if activating a replay would actually freeze the enemy AI (maybe alongside the friendly one?), it would be useful, especially with the other 'drive-by' strat with a car. if you have any updates, please let me know!

Ssj4vegeto50 4 hours ago +Márton Nagy I'm not sure if it's just me, but it worked sort of. Could you try it out and tell me what happens? Just double tap F1 whenever the Yakuza are frozen and the Cartel are out of their vehicle. When I tested it some froze, but one of the men still shot at me, so I'm not sure if it's just a fluke.

Márton Nagy 1 minute ago +Ssj4vegeto50 I will test it when i have time. I'll update you when that happens.

Tokyo, Japan

Update on the replay AI freeze idea, Powdinet tested it:

12:32 Blacklev: to the ppl who hang out in #gta: has anyone tested this yet? http://i.imgur.com/1plFjYg.png 12:32 Powdinet: nop 12:33 Blacklev: okay 12:33 Blacklev: i am gonna test it tomorrow, then 12:33 Powdinet: I'll actually try it once 12:33 Powdinet: Simply to see if I can still Dodo Bait 12:33 Blacklev: you dont have to do dodo bait to test that strat 12:34 Powdinet: There is no point in testing that strat without Dodo Bait 12:34 Blacklev: but yeah you might as well just test it that way, doesnt matter 12:34 Blacklev: well yeah 12:38 Powdinet: F1 didn't freeze any AI 12:38 Blacklev: were they out of the car already? 12:38 Powdinet: Also I somehow got a nearly perfect Bait first try after not doing it for months 12:38 Powdinet: I tried inside the car and out of the car 12:38 Powdinet: neither worked 12:39 Blacklev: well then the new dodo strats are pretty shit 12:40 Powdinet: Bait is pretty ¤¤¤

So yeah, I guess this strat is pretty RIP.

Chivu found this addition to this strat. Basically you need to back up more into the alley thing if 2 or 3 cars come at the same time. That makes them not find you so they don't follow you. Managed to do dodo bait 8 times in the row with this. 9th failed because I flew into a advertisment thing.

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