I've been meaning to complete this a long time ago now, but I actually haven't speedrun REmaster in over a month now and I guess it's getting closer and closer to me never finishing it, or maybe even never speedrunning the game all together again! XD

For months now, I kept hearing how the Xbox one version was so much slower than the PS4 version but without actual proofs. So I decided to do a frame by frame comparison between a PS4 run and a Xbox1 run.

I compared this run that was played on the Xbox1 by Avenged1250 :

To this run that was played on PS4 by Sshplur :

Also to, I believe, this run of mine played on PS4 :

I counted the frames it takes to load the menu (when pressing menu on your own), load the menu when you pick an item, and opening a door.

The results (this is for the route of a Jill any% run):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nJ9_P1HrbU-yiMirpJMDI3gezagAionwF7ciuuzN0wY/edit?usp=sharing

As you can see, I never bothered to finish it. It already took me like 5 hours to do this and I was not even 25% done! XD

I also compared a couple of cutscenes loading times and they were the same, but I never bothered to write it down other than in a notepad (and I can't find it......).

A note for those mathematically retarded : 1 frame on PS4 = 0.0333333sec (1/30).

Short analysis of results:

No difference between Sshplur's run and Avenged1250's run. Sometimes Sshplur is 1 frame quicker and sometimes Avenged1250 is 1 frame quicker and it pretty much evens out. I do appear to be 1-2 frames quicker on menu loading and on item picking (I'm actually slower on menu closing when picking an item 2 times out of the 3 times I tested, although 3 examples is too small of a sample, I needed more to draw a conclusion). I think this 1-2 frames quicker on my run has to do with my hard drive. I installed a hybrid hard drive into my PS4 when I first bought it (not related to speedrunning, I just wanted a bigger HDD) which is a HDD of better performance than the one coming with the PS4:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178340

Obviously, it would have been better to do the comparison on the entire run (so every menu loading, every item picking, every door animation, and every cutscenes loading time), but, again, I'm lazy and I frankly don't care anymore. I just wanted to post this because I spent time doing it and this way it wasn't for nothing.

But, for the goal of this exercise, let's say I'm 2 frames quicker in average to pick items and open my menu (I'm being generous). I believe there's 43 items to pick in an entire Jill any% run, but to be safe let's say 50. Also, I believe you need to open your menu between 30 to 50 times (too lazy to actually count it.....), let's say 50 times again to be safe.

So that's a 100 times I would be quicker by 2 frames, meaning, on an entire run, I would be quicker by a whooping (100¤2) / 30 = 6.67 seconds! Wow! Now that's a huge difference (I'm being facetious). Pessimism can beat any of my times by over a minute without even trying... Who cares for 6.67 seconds... I guess it's the same argument as the one related to stair skating and mashing speed at that point (as proven by Sshplur's numbers).

Conclusion : PS4 is NOT quicker than Xbox one. If you want a possibly slightly better improvement on your time, buy a hybrid HDD for your console (be it PS4 or Xbox1). But, for all we fucking know, it doesn't even affect the IGT... So it wouldn't matter anyway.

So, if your best time is over 1 minute over the WR, chances are, you're the problem, not the console. Stop using your console performance as a cheap excuse to justify your own lack of skills and keep practicing!!

Feel free to do the exact same exercise as I did (or don't if you wanna keep your sanity intact! D:)

Edit: Super interesting video CursedToast found :

Framerates comparisons between both games. It's pretty much the exact same apart from a few negligible differences.

Finally where have you been Kappa well lileya thanks for testing this out but still there are a few differences between the two obviously but it would take too long to do a frame by frame comparison for both consoles so lets just go by your words of PS4 is 6.67 secs faster which regardless of any argument is still 6.67 secs faster than xbox one so im going to disagree with your conclusion over that single point but however we could make this fair for all runners regardless of console separate the consoles therefore stopping any argument stating which console is faster if pc can have the doorskip category then it would also be fair to separate the consoles as it is unfair to any runner on xbone as there is no point keeping them in the same category if one is faster than the other.

Huh?! Apparantly you didn't read past the first paragraph because I explicitly explained there is NO difference between PS4 and Xbone. There is potentially a difference between my PS4 run and Sshplur PS4 run (note this is on the same console) because I installed a hybrid HDD in my PS4 when I first purchased it (Sshplur confirmed having the original HDD in his PS4).

Like I said, anybody is free to redo the same exercise as I did and will most likely come to the same conclusion.

Good work, Lileya! Welcome to the frame counting committee :p

I wanna do one for PC in regards to 30 FPS vs 60 FPS vs Variable. It's very tedious work though BrokeBack I think most of the time difference lies in menus and text cycles for PC.

Haha, I definitely thought of you when I was doing it, thoughts like: "Geez, now I can feel Roo's pain ;_;".

Make sure you post your results when you're done! :) Is it me or even zombies AI is different on variable rate? I only played on variable rate a couple of times because my computer couldn't take it (it was super buggy), but I felt the zombies were either acting differently or everything felt at a different distance than 60FPS... o_O It makes no sense though, probably just my imagination... ^_^;;

It's going to take a lot of time. I have plans to do it across all the RE games (classic style). For REmaster, it's gonna be a little difficult since I run on a laptop so I have no idea how high the FPS can go. I'll have to conduct this one differently since I feel text and menus process quicker on higher frame rates. I may keep camera transitions and door loads into account, but only if they prove to be showing any discrepancy. Cutscenes would be narrowed down to just Lisa since that's the only unskippable scene in the game. I suppose I could look at how quickly it takes to regain control after skipping scenes, but as mentioned before I'm trying to find variables that make a difference.

EDIT: I forgot to answer in regards to enemies lol. I honestly have no idea personally. When I started using variable it was only to maintain stability on my end when streaming this game since I was losing a lot of frames. I never paid any attention to how the enemies behaved so I've just grown to get use to how they behave. You're not the only one that's noticed it though.

PS: RE0 dogs > REmake 4Head

I was planning on nabbing the collection disc with both games and maybe running them. from the looks of it, it doesn't matter what console I go with? basically, what controller do I like better?

Pretty much and I feel the Xbone controller is better suited for speedrunning this game as well. It's easier to switch from alt to tank controls (stick to d-pad) because you can all do it with your left hand. With the PS4 controller, I personally use my right thumb to control the left stick while my left thumb is on the d-pad. It's a fucking bitch..... but I'm definitely not gonna buy an Xbone just so I can speedrun this game with more ease... XD

Since the timer for LiveSplit and REHD Hook start on the opening cutscene it most likely would take into account as the game is already running at that point. :(

I was also told it does count towards the IGT, that's why I was using a capture card to record my runs and I was turning off the internet connection on the PS4 before starting the run, this disables this whole 4 seconds of uploading a video segment or something like that (which cannot be turned off any other way from my experience). The PS4 streaming app is crap anyway.