@Oxknifer Not sure why you put all that as an edit instead of a new post (especially if you actually wanted me to see it), but anyway I'll go ahead and reply to your edit.
[quote=Oxknifer]it's not that bad of an idea[/quote]
It really is. Adding some rando who knows absolutely nothing about the game or community in question as a temporary moderator is not substantially better than having no moderator (in fact I could see it being substantially worse in some cases). Them being "trusted" enough for site staff to choose them as a backup doesn't really change that. And for that matter, anybody who thinks they can or should moderate just about any game despite that has no business moderating games, especially not these particularly vulnerable leaderboards.
[quote=Oxknifer]This is a feedback forum, not a shut down feedback forum[/quote]
I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry I'm not polite enough for you or whatever, but sometimes suggestions are just plain bad for really obvious reasons, and I don't feel the need to sugar coat it or always provide a detailed explanation (especially in this case where I actually did give a detailed counter-argument, and you just backpedaled into "well I wasn't actually suggesting anything", or whatever that was all about).
[quote=Oxknifer]I'll just link some other examples of really bad responses I've seen on this thread[/quote]
Why are you posting these? And... do you just... hold on to examples of posts you don't like? Or did you dig through almost two years of this thread to find them? Either way this seems quite petty, and is an ironically terrible way to make a point about positive forum interactions.
I'm gonna go ahead and remove those links for you.
Hey how do you respond to quotes from other users, I never figured that out. (testing)
quote=NAMEHERE hi This is a quote
hmm
Found this: https://www.speedrun.com/post/22zxg
[ quote = shikennuggets]I said a thing [ / quote ]
Without spaces, gives you:
[quote=shikennuggets]I said a thing[/quote]
[quote=shikennuggets]Not sure why you put all that as an edit instead of a new post[/quote]
I like keeping things in one place sometimes :))
[quote=shikennuggets]Adding some rando who knows absolutely nothing about the game or community in question as a temporary moderator is not substantially better than having no moderator[/quote]
The goal, of course, would be to find someone within the community to mod. But what about all those leaderboards with no active community at all? An engaging, preselected mod could feasibly help grow that community.
[quote=shikennuggets]particularly vulnerable leaderboards[/quote]
Wondering what you mean by that ^
[quote=shikennuggets]I don't feel the need to sugar coat[/quote]
Then ...just don't say anything. "Yeah, no" is like "screw what you just said," which provides no constructive argument and comes off as rude. Perhaps a new user posting here just had their first idea they'd like to share and want to see what people think. If you explain kindly and logically why it is a bad idea, then you are promoting a warm culture that is open to ideas.
[quote=shikennuggets]"well I wasn't actually suggesting anything", or whatever that was all about[/quote]
I was opening up the topic for discussion instead of demanding the implementation of a certain solution. For instance, we might come to the conclusion that back-up mods are a bad idea and, through discussion, find a better solution.
[quote=shikennuggets]did you dig through almost two years of this thread [/quote]
It took three minutes to go back and find those. They tend to stick out.
[quote=shikennuggets]this seems quite petty, and is an ironically terrible way to make a point about positive forum interactions.[/quote]
I agree with the irony point haha. However, I do not find it petty to call people out for making rude, unproductive fallacies in response to valid ideas. The first part of making a change is identifying a problem. But yes, perhaps I didn't need to quote them directly.
[quote=Oxnifer]The goal, of course, would be to find someone within the community to mod[/quote]
This is just what we're already doing but with extra steps and more things that can go wrong.
[quote=Oxknifer]But what about all those leaderboards with no active community at all? An engaging, preselected mod could feasibly help grow that community.[/quote]
Now I'm even more confused about what the goal of this system is, but... not really no. Doesn't matter how good the moderator is, if nobody's running the game, nobody's running the game. And if the goal is stimulating growth then a backup mod system seems like a weird way to accomplish that (and is also totally unnecessary, that can still happen under the current systems).
[quote=Oxknifer]Wondering what you mean by that ^[/quote]
If a game is abandoned by its moderators and its community is more or less dead, whoever becomes the moderator next pretty much has free reign to do whatever the heck they want with the leaderboard (at least until if/when someone else comes along).
[quote=Oxknifer]Perhaps a new user posting here just had their first idea[/quote]
Last I checked you are not a new user posting their first idea. Don't act like I do this to everybody.
[quote=Oxknifer]It took three minutes to go back and find those... I do not find it petty to call people out for making rude, unproductive fallacies in response to valid ideas[/quote]
I do not believe that it took you three minutes at all, but yes, calling people out several years after the fact to make a point to a different person about being rude is pretty goddamn petty. Don't do that again ever.
[quote=shikennuggets]the moderator next pretty much has free reign to do whatever the heck they want with the leaderboard (at least until if/when someone else comes along).[/quote]
That's a good point. I understand your thoughts behind it :)) In the mean time, we can be certain that auto-removing mods from games is (most likely) acceptable if:
- They are 3 months inactive
- There is at least one other active mod on the board
[quote=shikennuggets]Last I checked you are not a new user[/quote]
Okay, scratch "new." All users should be respected.
[quote=shikennuggets]several years after the fact[/quote]
The earliest was from November 2018, not several years ago. And it was to make a point about the general acceptance of coarse fallacies as responses. It happens all over the site forum, not just here. But yes, perhaps I didn't need to quote them directly, as that could be considered cherry-picking and could stir up negativity between myself and those users. There are plenty of people here who do contribute to a positive environment, including you, Shiken :)) My apologies.
a block feature its annoying getting people saying vertify my runs for hours on end on speedrun.com
From what @R0main said about deleting games from the site - game moderators can delete their game in the first 14 days, after that only full-mods/admins can do it (maybe not if there are verified runs in the leaderboards, dunno).
Anyway, the button for deleting games is still visible; in the top right corner of the "edit game" page:
I don't know what will happen if I press on that and I obviously don't want to try. This button should be removed entirely from the page, if the criteria for deleting the game is not valid anymore.
(Not sure if that belongs to site bugs)
Would like to suggest an option to pin a certain game to your profile so runs of that game show up at the top. Sometimes runners will mainly speedrun one game but also speedrun others, and if someone has a newer pb in a few other games than their main game, those will show at the top of the profile. What I'm suggesting is an option to pin a certain game at the top of your src profile, so people see that first when looking at your profile.
Just an idea to throw out there, not sure how serious people would take this suggestion.. but what about a speedrun.com weekly podcast? You can have guest hosts maybe every week or even start monthly to test the waters and maybe interview different runners that are interested or talk about anything speedrun related. Is this a good idea or a bad one? Has it been suggested before? Thanks :)
@ShadowFlare7799 There are speedrunning-related podcasts, the page link is in the main site menu.
As far as the site itself actually running a podcast, I don't think anyone on staff would really have the time or resources to orchestrate anything like that. But yeah there are a fair number of speedrunning podcasts listed on the page for them, though I don't know how many of those are still actually active, a lot of the more noteworthy ones have retired.
Thanks Oreo never knew about those podcasts. :) But yeah, I was referring to the site actually running a weekly or monthly podcast. Sounds like a pretty cool idea, I just never knew if it were brought up before. Thanks guys.