That's a really weird game mechanics. OK, in that case, I propose these categories:
- Championship 1-30 events
- Championship 1-32 events
- Ultimate racer 1-30 events
- Ultimate racer 1-32 events - basically 100% run since you have to do all 64 events
east did championship 1-31 events that took 2:24 hours.
Agreed?
1-31 category doesn't make sense since it's a bonus event and doesn't give you any rank (or it does?).
100% is not necessary unless someone requests it.
So the only question remains if you should complete both events 32 or just one in 4) Ultimate racer 1-32 events
east said you gain "You've completed Championship mode" message after beating event 30. That is something on which we can build a category. You already made the categories, so I don't understand why you suddenly turn around and try to deny 1-30 events categories. Please explain.
"01 - World Racing - Championship Event 30 -> World Champion - unlock Event 31 02 - World Racing - Championship Event 32 -> Hot Pursuit Champion unlock reward video 03 - Hot Pursuit - Ultimate Racer Event 30 -> Ultimate Racer - unlock Event 31 04 - Hot Pursuit + World Racing - Ultimate Racer Event 32 -> Hot Pursuit Champion unlock reward video 05 - maybe the 100% category with both 32 events, without unlock all cars."
This is fine if you're okay with 5 categories. It's too many in my opinion, but oh well, if that's how the game works... or we would only have to allow runs with events 32, not 30.
No, you didn't need 7 months to convince me about PS2 version being different. I didn't know about the difference untill we've received couple submissions and you made couple posts on forum that you managed to beat them, but PS2 version is a bit different. I don't remember you previously mentioning this to me. Event table IL is fine, we can do that, but that's not the point of discussion here. We're talking full-game runs.
"When you play both 32 events than you have 100% category. You must only play one of this 32 Events. Ultimate Racer has a own 32 event and Champion has a own 32 event."
Yes, I know.
The problem is that by your logic, the event 30 message should say "You are the world champion", not "You've completed championship mode" :) The game clearly says you've completed the mode, not just one event like "Event 9 - Pursuit BMW M5 Challenge -> here you are the BMW champion".
Why can't we just make categories that do not end with a video, but with just some kind of accomplishment like in this case - become the world champion? Is that really such a problem for you?
How about we make events 1-30 misc category? Kinda like "100 tags" category in San Andreas. I mean, if the run would be much shorter, why not do it?
"That mean you must ''only'' play event 30 for the world champion title. In my opinion. But this will only work with a event table. When we open a misc tabel what you say, than we have 64 different misc runs. With a event table we can open all challenge champion events into one board with 64 champion titles."
For fucks sake, the point is to create a full-game category based on some start and finish - in this case, 1-30 events. Stop talking about event table please! Event table won't solve this unless you make categories like "1-29,1-30", etc. The category would be named "1) Championship 1-30 events = World Champion Title". It's not just "world champion title". Get it?
"btw : The misc table from east, do not make the game faster. It make the game longer, because you must unlock first all the other events first. The misc table FIX only the problem from east, he play without memory card, that mean he can not save anytime. That mean all other runners that play the game normal with memory card must suffer for the misc table."
Why would you want to save in this mode, anyway? I don't get it. The point here is to create a category that won't take 5+ hours to do.
I see your problem with champion ranks. But event 30 is the last event that is not a bonus one and you get rank "world champion", which is kinda the ultimate rank in racing games.
- any% event 32
Since JessicaSix probably gave up arguing with me, I'll just set the categories myself.
No, it's not the ultimate rank in this game. I said it's kinda the ultimate rank in racing games. When you play a tournament in most racing games, you usually end up being "world champion". The same is here, except that can continue the game by playing extra bonus events that unlock some additional stuff.
No, completing event 30 and becoming world champion DOES NOT finish the game, but it's such a strong point in the game that we can make a misc category out of it.
Ok, curious. How does any% 32 work, since you have to beat all of the levels with first place, why not just make it 100%?
Heh, and now you agree with me :)
east: From what I understood, there are two events 32 (one in each mode) and both of them unlock the same reward video and the same title "hot pursuit champion", as much as it sounds weird. So you can complete either one of them, depending on which is faster. It's entirely up to you which mode you choose. It's basically any% run with full ending.
The current categories are based on titles, but we can change it to be less confusing.
