EnglandSegmented would be nice, they're kind of a dying breed of run and there's no real central repository for them at the moment, so speedrun.com could do well to fill this particular niche.
TASes I dunno, TASVideos kinda has the base covered on that one. People apparently take issues with their rules and practices, but I'd take that issue up with them first.
^ You say that like WR holders are by default upstanding bastions of morality or something
I kinda hate being conflated with Cyberdemon and a supposed "clique" because that's a shit way of trying to engage an opposing viewpoint. The fact that we agree on something does not automatically mean I'm like, tight with the dude or under his influence or any dumb shit like that. I just actually think the guy has a goddamn point for once.
I'm not mad, and at the end of the day you're perfectly right that I don't run this game. Ya'll can have bad leaderboards and it's no skin off my back in the end, but I like speedrunning and I like RE4 so while the opportunity presents itself, I'll try to contribute to the discourse so it can work out better in the end.
You're free to disregard opinions of people who don't run the game, but if lots of speedrunners seem to take some sort of issue, maybe consider that things could be done better?
I don't really want to hear about how seriously I'm taken from the guy who's sole claim to fame is fucking mobile edition
Seriously though I don't know why you're mad at me. I'm making the salient observation that the leaderboards haven't actually changed. Nothing is destroyed and panicking over the community being broken is moronic. It's temporary, don't shit your pants.
i dunno last I checked the leaderboards are still there perfectly in-tact it's not like anything's been destroyed
Yes, the RTA and IGT are different, obviously IGT is lower than RTA because video games. But saying "IGT is lower than RTA therefore RTA is slower for this category" makes no fucking sense, the actual time it takes to complete the run doesn't change because of the numbers used to display it, RTA can't be slower than itself because it's, y'know. Real time?
i'm sincerely lost on what the hell kind of argument you were making with that one
"RTA in NG+ is slower than IGT."
the time that physically passes in the real world is slower than the in game clock therefore fuck reality?
i don't get how this makes sense as an argument, either timing method makes no difference to the run or it's faster, it can't be slower, that's physically impossible?
ok i'll explain this very clearly then
People are interested in the fastest way to complete the game off a fresh file, from New Game. New Game Plus is not fresh file and requires setup. You know this already and are kinda just misleading the conversation, which is annoying. Communicate clearly.
(incidentally NG+ probably also benefits from a swap to RTA but eh)
because your question about NG+ is facetious, misleading crap and you know it
trying to redirect the conversation away from the core issue is not proper communication and certainly not a good look for a moderator
Not as of like, yesterday or something?
But yeah, this is pretty analogous to what Pokemon went through, and it was dumb when they opposed it then and it's dumb to oppose it now. The net result of what happened to Pokemon with it's timing method change was the games got faster, easier and more competitive due to having a more granular/accurate timing method. All this and more can be yours if you just stop being lazy and utilize the new tech at your disposal.
because he's faster than anyone else atm
I dunno about "not realistic".
You totally could. Like, it's physically possible to do. Bigger leaderboards than this have gone through complete timing method overhauls multiple times, so that's less a case of "not realistic" and more a case of "cannot be arsed".
Frankly, I don't get what the big deal is about swapping timing method to accommodate new tech and all kinds of runs. The discrepancy between IGT and RTA isn't even that large in the first place. Considering RTA would allow you guys to consolidate the clusterfuck of categories you have down into something more manageable I think it makes a lot more logistical sense to go that route than to time some categories IGT and some RTA and yadda yadda.
battleonfan Does It Again!
as an aside i'm not sure what you find so offensive about the Jersey Devil leaderboard other than minor stuff due to it being probably hastily constructed there are dumber boards on this website and probably better hills to die on as a result
^ I know I've seen development work on something like that but it's nowhere near in a state ready for broad usage
COOL TIME FOR OPINIONS
Ok, so ESA this year was the first major speedrun event I've ever been to and I had a great time and could definitely stand to do it again, I met a shitload of people, took a ton of annoying pictures and played video games until I passed out it was awesome. Now with the uncharacteristic happiness out of the way time for serious posting
Venue stuff:
The venue's location itself was kind of inconvenient as it was absolutely nowhere near anything else and it was like a fair walk from there to anything, food, hotel, other random points of interest etc. The fact it was so far away from anywhere that gave food aside from that one pizza place (that kinda shut earlyish aswell) came to be a problem if you're like me and are vaguely nocturnal because there was basically bugger all food options during the night hours except for hot dogs from the front desk. I ate too many of those. That's a non-trivial issue as well for all the people who's runs (like mine) got pushed to fuck o clock in the morning due to all the tech issues.
also why did the price of a can of cola differ between front desk and kiosk they're in literal spitting distance of each other u wot m8
Venue itself was nice! Spacious, well air-conditioned and was pretty clean throughout the event, Wi-Fi was kinda shit. I have no real complaints about the venue itself though other than where it is. I'm going to voice a possibly odd complaint which is that we had a huge ass venue all to ourselves and we basically only used the one main room? A bunch of us basically set up a nest upstairs and never moved, but there was the huge B-Hall that saw almost exclusive use by two groups of people for Rock Band or mafia. Or sleeping. This isn't really a complaint about the venue or the event or anything, just...weird?
Accomodation:
I stayed at Best Western Royal or whatever the hell its name was, which was really nice and is probably the best hotel I've ever stayed at. They had a pool and everything it was the tits. Main problem with it was it was an actual 20 minute walk from the venue and I hate exercise so that kinda sucked. Otherwise 10/10 hell yeah
Tech Delays And You (A.K.A My experience with the actual marathon):
When I arrived on the first day there was basically no way to actually see the stream other than getting a chair up close to the main TV or PC which made it basically impossible to see what was going on, the monitors for the stream for the crowd hadn't been setup yet. I was mildly butthurt about this because there was shit I wanted to watch on Day 1 that I just didn't. Also, similarly on Day 1 there weren't practice PCs, I personally don't care about that since I brought my laptop to play on but that was a complaint I heard from other people so I will relay. Both of these problems got solved eventually but still, delaaays.
SPEAKING OF DELAYS. I won't spend much time giving ya'll that much shit for the huge tech delays that pushed tons of peoples runs around and ended up moving me from a neat comfy 6pm timeslot to bumfuck in the morning when it was super hard to watch for people. I'm not mad. I'm not mad at all.
i lied I'm kinda mad. On that note though huge shoutouts to the surprisingly large people of utter nutters who stayed awake to watch me display profound arrogance for 50 minutes, ya'll crazy. But I mainly want to talk about what happened leading up to my run because it was kind of bizarre. Basically, just before Donkey Kong the setup was taking so long (heavens knows what causes setup for a super nintendo game to take 45 minutes but w/e) that the hosting staff started interviewing a bag of fucking popcorn to stall for time. I was mad, so I started complaining on Twitter, whereupon Planks sees my bitching and tells me to tell tech to skip the game, so I do and then I come right back with my controller in hand and tell them "If you need a run, I'm ready to rock."
Only I was not ready to rock, because even though I had tested my game and set it up literally several days in advance, the stream PC I set it up on had been disconnected from a whole bunch of shit and I didn't want to start messing with cables and re-attaching shit myself, so I just hurriedly set my game up on an entirely new PC instead, which didn't take very long because FP is like 200MB and I don't require much special stuff for that game. Despite being ready to rock quite a bit in advance and prior call to skip Donkey Kong to make up time, Donkey Kong did not get skipped because they did eventually get it to work after a setup time of like nearly a full hour or something. So I ended up doing my run at the scheduled time anyway despite proactive attempts on my part and call from head tech to try and get shit back on track. It actually ended up being lucky I got mad and tried to help things by being ready, because it made me discover that I wasn't actually ready because of the sodding PC getting disconnected from stuff, so that saved further delays at least, but if shit was in order we could've saved the schedule like 30 minutes or something instead of me just running merely on time.
My run itself? Absolutely fabulous, all was great. RoboSparkle bantered well during my run which was an unexpected spice to the proceedings, I smashed the fuck out of it and it was a ton of fun. I'm kinda sad the timer buttons weren't working, mostly because it looked like fun. Donation light is a good thing to have too, quality stuff to idiot proof things for idiot runners like me. The end of my run was kind of irritating though because in like the only instant setup the entire marathon had, basically as soon as my run ended they cut my mic and cut to SEGA Bass Fishing without telling me that I was off-air or anything so I kept blathering with closing commentary for like another minute without realising nobody could hear a word I was saying. Instant setup good! Would prefer some kind of indication to wrap it up though so I don't keep trying to fill dead space that didn't actually exist and inadvertently look dumb.
In spite of all of the bullshit that preceded it, my run was still a ton of fun to do and it totally felt worth it. I sleep at stupid hours anyway so being at 5am didn't really strain me that much, other people would probably be more pissed about it than I was.
this is also a completely random and slightly self-interested aside but Tetris was supposed to be right after my run but got moved to a normal time after shitloads of delays. Was there an actual reason for that like runner availability or did Tetris just get preferential treatment re:timeslot because it's Tetris? If former, whatever. If latter, I'm pissed.
I don't have a good closing statement for this load of rambling vaguely to do with ESA. I had fun, it was fun to be at. Please don't take any of my writings as explicit dissing of how it was ran or anything like that so much as me just calling it how I experienced it. I really did enjoy being there and ESA16 was fun enough to sell me on considering coming to future events, so in the end it was absolutely a positive experience for me. I'll see you dorks next yeaaar!
The Sonic Speedrun Discord server is public and is by far the best place to ask questions like this: https://discord.gg/0SjxovrK6kh3rlfe
i'm pretty sure I won't be murdered for putting the invite here, pretty sure.
Niiiice.
edit: Hang about, no distinction between Normal and Reverse?
The search bar has been in general completely screwed since the layout change, sometimes after using it once, deleting the entry and typing in a new one it won't bring up the usual drop-down menu to select a game or user until you refresh the page.
PC is the best version purely for the ability to swap between patch versions, because the Wii U version isn't ideal for anyone other than Milla because it's running on the previous patch version because lol GalaxyTrail releasing patches in anything resembling a timely fucking fashion, so it's missing a useful speedtrick for Lilac/Carol, but the latest patch version is horribly broken for Milla, so being able to choose the version for your character is a huge advantage.
