When will the 'mixed' speedruns be back? I don't see a good reason why it got removed. It doesn't matter if you get carried, what matters is how quick you finish the game...

What's a good reason to keep it? Almost no one was using it

the people only use mixed for free WR

I've heard a lot of people say they miss mixed speedruns, also there are more screen mode speedrunners now

that isnt a good reason

as a screenie i would like mixed% back, because its really difficult to find other screenies who are not only good, but also who are willing to learn and practice routes just to get a good time. with mixed% its a lot easier since i can still have a chance at getting a top time if i find a vr friend who will speedrun with me. Without mixed the top times are just vr and the ones who have a screen player in the run get pushed down to the bottom of the list simply because we're slower. i get that it would be a lot of work to get it back and i don't expect it to return but i really want it back tbh.

Idk, you would have to find a vr player who's just not very good because vr is so far above screen for speed since teleport and double shot isn't on screen. It would ultimately end up being vr players carrying screen players for ez world record.

its not like the screenie doesnt do anything tho, it also comes down to how good they can be and how efficiently they can carry their own weight. i can guarantee that it would be faster for the screenie to know what they're doing than them to just run through the level letting the vr player(s) kill everything. also screenies can move pretty quick with the charge attack so its not like they would be left in the dust behind the teleporters, the screenie would actually need to be a good player to get wr, so its not just an easy wr.

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No

Speedruns are not just about skill. Strategy is very important as well. (Killing enemies as soon as they spawn). It doesn't matter if you're on screen or VR. Everyone just needs to do their part correctly.

Mixed speedruns aren’t being added back. If you have a squad of 3 vr players doing all the work while a ps4 player on screen loads in and all the enemies are killed, then if the screen player hardly did anything it should be counted as VR. The only quest it was being used for was golden anyway, and even then it was hardly competitive. If you want to speedrun with a VR player and get it verified it will be placed in the vr part of this site because, like most people have said before, the Vr player does 90% of the work while the screen player usually just tags along. If a duo with one Vr player and one screen player is slower than their solo (which it often has been) there really is no point of it.

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Who said that a squad mixed will have 3 VR players and one screenie...?

Also you can glitch weapons in on screen mode, and screenies with swords can move faster than VR players on teleport.

and what??? screen mode movements,glitches,etc are lower than vr

glitches are slow, but not movement with swords

It's ok if the mixed category won't be back. I'll just post mixed speedruns