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Friday the 13th Forum  /  regarding "MESEN"

ValientlinkValientlink

United States

  ValientlinkValientlink
2 Feb 2021, 06:02 (edited: 2 Feb 2021, 06:04)

So I didn't know much about this emulator, but I hear it's banned in pretty much all other games because of a lag reduction feature. There was a recent submission of 2:58 with this, but it also used autofire (which would have not been allowed anyway). Although apparently that bit about autofire was never in the rules, I coulda swore it was. I never came across any other runs on here that used autofire, though. It was only obvious here because the throws were oddly consistent and then I noticed it on the input display.

Just wanted to make a post about it. This game has really gotten a lot of runners over the last couple years so it would be good to discuss stuff a bit more about updating rules and such. From what I understand, FCEUX and Nestopia are fair game. On this guys 2:58 run, it did seem to me like some of the load transitions were a bit shortened, but apparently it can be near impossible to tell if someone is reducing lag (the feature that has resulted in this emulators ban)

 

ComatoseJoeComatoseJoe

Toronto, ON, Canada

  ComatoseJoeComatoseJoe
6 Feb 2021, 07:00

I agree with you on banning that EMU version.
I also know that running on EMU has it's advantage but has it ever been discussed making EMU its own category?
Please excuse me if it has, I could not locate it being discussed.

 

Bigfoot86Bigfoot86

United States

  Bigfoot86Bigfoot86
6 Feb 2021, 12:17

I think having an emulator category for this game in particular is a great idea. I use FCEUX for runs in other games and can vouch for its accuracy.

 

ValientlinkValientlink

United States

  ValientlinkValientlink
8 Feb 2021, 16:06

I don't know of any other games off hand that have a specific category for emulator. Currently emu runs are hidden by default on the main boards. I'd probably not make an entire category for them since you can just choose to view only emu runs on the board, and I think people should be encouraged to use console when they want a decent time like sub 3:00.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something though. This is how we do it in Ocarina of Time but I understand that's quite a different game.

 

ComatoseJoeComatoseJoe

Toronto, ON, Canada

  ComatoseJoeComatoseJoe
8 Feb 2021, 20:14

Thanks Valientlink.
The way I saw it when the run shows as hidden by default was that, it's accepted but it really doesn't count and by making its own category would even the play field for runners who only have access to EMU (like myself). This is just my way of thinking however and I am having a lot of fun running this game, improving where I can no matter how resets I encounter, so I am good either way. 🙂

 
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