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7 years ago
Alsace, France

You should change the categories organisation see the exemple on my Streets of rage 3 page https://www.speedrun.com/sor_3#Axel it look more clear and easy to navigate when the game got so much cats'

Otherwise this game interest me for a silly run, it is hard to learn or not ? any technics ? glitch ?

Slovakia

I'll check it out, I can agree that 12 categories is a bit too much and requires some reorganization.

I don't think it's hard to learn, you just need to follow some simple strats and use some simple tricks. I am happy to see someone else wanting to run this game.

Well, for starters, if you want to get into this game, I suggest you should do Hawk or Mace on Easy mode, around 33 minutes, very simple to beat. But still requires precision. On easy, use your combo (circle + cross (O + X)) very often, you can replenish health easily and this move is rather devastating compared to your normal attack. On easy you don't need to pick up any items, your fists and kicks do as much damage as pistol. In level 3, use the axe at the beginning. On the first boss, Driver, stun him, pick the axe and throw it, combo move, pick axe, throw, win.

Go straight, that means into Mall, it's faster. On the second boss, Exo, only use the combo move and nothing else, you can beat him before your first train leaves. Go army base. Throw baseball bats then, it's very effective. On the third boss, Vulkan, run directly to him, you can kill him with the 3 barrels that are close to him.

On the hovercraft, use the Flare gun at the guys that jump out of a helicopter, use barrels on the blue guys (this is I think THE ONLY ONE GLITCH in the game, the blue guys would 99 % of the time go for a barrel instead of you, and while they are picking it up, you can easily kill them). And then it's pretty much anything goes. In the last 2 levels before the final boss, grab people and never let go until they die. Final boss, Zeng, doesnt have a specific strategy, maybe just get behind him, kick him, and when he turns, use combo, then repeat.

Basically it's nothing hard once you get the just of it, just focus, beat people up, do 2 or 3 for 1's and profit.

I wish you luck with the runs :)

Alsace, France

So i did Alana easy 1st try, i ended up with an almost 51mins and it made me feel like shit.

The route is ok, enemy spawn are all learn i have a very good memory, the Technics +items are all known, the Boss are easy just have problems with the 3rd one that can be positioned too close sometimes and touch you still if you're too slow (game character is slow to pick up so if you idle too much its fucked)

The only problems are listed down below :

  1. The split time are weird, i dont know how you calculate this, i start timer when i select the character at the beginning and end it when game fade to black when you completely lose control of the character after the final Boss, it seem that you cut too early in your videos your character is still moving so it's still inputs you know the run is still on, in Sor for exemple after beating final boss we also can move and we split only when you totally lose control. The other splits are done on black fade between each levels.

  2. How does you screen load so fast ? My loading screen does move part by part very slowly compared to yours that hit the bar in one row pretty instantly. Is this emulator option changed ? Other emu used ? it is the Game version ? i saw multiple versions of the game => 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, EU/US etc....

  3. How do you make them not blocking you ? compared to your video they seem to be less agro and blocking then mine, i get gangbanged on last levels and cant react but spam special in desperation or run away cause they're evading/dashing all the time, blocking even when i change target. It's maybe the most time lost i had cause of this, the last levels was so long.... Grab is not very effective and camera + very unresponsive control piss me off.

The game is bad to be honest but it is enjoyable in multiplayer, i have the intentions to try to learn it better but it's really hard for me not because it is hard game, because i'm playing lots of games like Streets of rage, gameplay is fluid and mechanics are precise and responsive so its a bit of a hard transition for me cause in FForce if you go too fast the character start doing silly stuff instead of what you want.

Slovakia

Don't worry about that, when I was young and played this game for the first time, I got trashed, on normal, in like the second level. You played it once, I played it 200 times, can't expect even remotely close results.

Vulkan can screw you over the most, I agree, he is perhaps the hardest boss. It's even RNG sometimes I think, since when you pick up a barrel, he can start shooting and not hit you? For some reason....so I don't know... just gotta work on the strats for that one, run close to him, dodge, don't let him close to the 3 barrels and then throw and PRAY.

  1. Well, there are no "official rules" on this game (:P), so I kinda made some up? Though I am following most of the common rules. Time should start when you select your character, right, I do that. Then, it's kinda different, since you can exit some levels and some, you can't. If you can, then I do the split when I hit the exit. If you can't, then I just split when there is the "level complete" screen. It's a minor thing. But you are right on the last one, the timer should stop when you lose control, but no one can stop me (LOL), so I just stop it when the boss takes the final hit and falls. I like it that way. Did it like that even when I didn't even plan on publishing my runs online.

  2. I am using ePSXe 1.9.25, Fighting Force USA-NTSC 1.2 version (definitely don't use PAL, it's slow), and I use OpenGL graphics plugin with almost lowest settings I think, might depend on the framerate as well? I really don't know. But you should try using the things I mentioned in this point, runs fine even on a slower machine.

  3. How could I explain this one....the game basically....cheats sometimes? It can hit you when you are mid-air and stop you, block forever until you stop attacking, when you grab them, they might or might not kick out...it's random I think. When it gets annoying, I just turn around, backfist them and that usually "fixes the issue". Grabbing with Hawk is super effective, Mace....not so much. Perhaps you could try Hawk on easy? That could help. And yeah, you are right, the camera can also screw you over, though L1 zooms kinda out and could help you sometimes, though I don't use it. And the controls....it requires practice. Or perhaps changing the control scheme.

Don't say bad words on my game :( I know, it's not perfect, I completely understand you. It's super funny in multiplayer cause you can beat your partner :D Well I can definitely understand, that the adaptation from Streets of Rage 2D into originally "Streets of Rage 4" is hard. Even though I never played Streets of Rage, shame on me, I can imagine. Playing a 3D beat-em-up for the first time, HARD. But perhaps you could try Hawk, if you haven't already, OR, you could do multiplayer speedrun with someone. You would be the first person ever to do that. Whatever it might be now, you at least tried and I put my hat down for you.

Alsace, France

Yeah i dont want to be mean on you, the game has obvious problems that i just honestly say. I'll change the emulator config and try with the other ISO. I hope i'll not get problems on loading and stuff, i'll keep sticking with Alana right now i dont want to switch characters, i'll just learn the controls better.

Slovakia

Nah, is okeh, I am aware of those issues. Change that up and hopefully that'll fix the lags and you could play properly. Seems reasonable, have fun.

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