@_abyss Dolphin doesn't run the same way on every computer. Your experience will vary depending on the specs you have. At least on console, the experience you have is consistent, as the game runs the way it was actually meant to. Dolphin won't run very well unless you have powerful enough specs to run it smoothly without frying your motherboard. I think it's fine if you don't really like the unofficial emulator board, I created that sheet IN CASE anyone WANTED to use it. I don't care if people use it or not, I made it just so it could kind of exist as an option.
@SioN i would consider you could do some better inversions than that xd, but it still stands as a great point (Finland is expensive lol)
@Toogs yea it was a great decision to create that unofficial sheet if someone was happy going on with it, so great job :D But ey doesnt mean someone can't argue for an actual official leaderboard
It will run worst on emulator for people with bad PC's, but at least it will be a viable option for people with good PC's, so is something, and those with the bad PC's will at least have the chance to make a submission on lb even if their are not lucky enough to have a better optimal game It won't realy damage anyone the leaderboard. There will still be some problems with it, but removing an emulators leaderboard for that is like fixing a broken stair by detonating the whole house yk, you wouldn't fix the problem. Now nor the good PC emu players neither the bad PC emu players are happy
Emu being "easier to cheat" isn't the only reason, emulator doesn't have the accuracy that a console does, and the mod team/community just doesn't want unofficial ways to play the game on the leaderboard (which is why USBLoaders and the like are also banned). Precedents in rules like this one usually stick around.
Emulator has also been observed loading slower than console (I think this was mentioned), and the time that goes into retimes definitely isn't going to be put into emulator runs, allowed or not.
Support for an emulator board has been quieter than support was for the WiiU VC board, it just isn't very worth it to add emulator with its inaccuracies if 6 of the 7 emulator boards might not even get any runs (its also very common it is for people to already own this game, or at least own a Wii).
Adding on to what Josh said, not being an official release matters a lot (contrary to the initial statement about how it's not some boogeyman). There are many (many) games that only allow official releases. AFAIA, most popular wii speedgames don't allow emulator (for example emulator is banned in MKWii on src and in TTs).
@JoshTGR what does it mean "not having the same accuracy that console does"? Well anyhow, once again, any difference on emulator inputs and loadings, whether is for better or for worst, are just a discrepance more with the console leaderboard that wouldn't matter at all if it was, as it is the idea, a different leaderboard via a subcategorization of both boards. It doesn't realy make a problem
Is also no need to go so far as "a leaderboard per emulator lol", if you wanna make it more accurate just force 1 concrete emulator for the whole category (Dolphin ig lol), it will make most of the work as anyone can access that one emulator as easy as any other, no need to accept every single one. And here and there I've seen some variety of emulation interest over the time i've been over here
And what is the argument for "just doesn't want unofficial ways to play the game" / "not being an official release matters a lot" And btw who cares about the status quo on other sides of SRC lol, each game will have to look for itself on what is convenient for it's particular case
(btw i found funny the coincidence that the 2 mods answered one to the other in an only 6 minutes spare on a 37 hours old thread lol)
@BillyJoe66 "not being an official release matters a lot"
doesn't give any reason or explanation whatsoever
I feel like potential cheating is the strongest argument for why emulator shouldn't be allowed, even though it could be managed properly as has been stated throughout the thread. I understand that a lot of games don't allow emu and other unnofficial means of play but isn't that mostly because of discrepencies in time and ease of cheating as well? So as previously stated it could still be it's own choice for runs, allowing only Dolphin with certain restrictions like recording whatever is needed to help with verifying the run. I also feel that saying the VC was more asked for isn't important since that is an official mean which will be asked for regardless in any popular game, as well as the fact that there is an earlier forum thread stating that every mention of Emulator would be deleted, not really allowing for people to bring it up over however long that was in place for.
Geji made a great point there, apparently "Any thread about emulator will be deleted from now", which kinda has been not allowing people to give arguments in favour of emulators for the past almost 4 years that it has been up, even if there are actual good arguments to discuse over the points given in that post (it is treated as if it cleared all the doubts, but it genuely doesnt) And im not sure how fair of a comparition is comparing it to VC as it is rather an official version of the game
@BillyJoe66 lol is literaly the New Super Mario Bros Wii rom, playing the same way, just on a different digital system I don't think that should make as a reason for it not to by viable as the same game You can have your own mentality and prefer Wii for the feeling of it, but there will be ton of people with Wii emulator that Wii frankly don't give a damn about whether they are playing on console or on emulator (I do not care, as someone uses both)
@An_D good for you, but you can easily go to follow setting and unactivate the following notifications if that's your problem, you're welcome. And btw it isn't unnecessary for the people that came with this thread for a reason
@BillyJoe66 that's the most delusional take on Emulation I've seen to date. Are you Nintendo by chance?
Whether something has already been chosen or not is inconsequential to whether or not it makes sense. I haven't even run the game but I feel the reasoning for not adding emulator seems to be the mods personal preference, since most of the reasons seem to be able to be worked around as part of the rules that would need to be implemented. If you went to a retro game store and bought an unofficial copy they got ahold of, and it's presumably just a rip of the files put onto another disc, you would probably have no idea either way so it doesn't make it less of the game. You're still playing the game none the wiser to it being unofficial.
I think it's good for a community to look back at a prior "final decision" to really evaluate it.
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