We felt that the No Exploit category should be ruled OVER the exploit (it is shown on instead of exploit) as we feel that the exploit category doesn't use as much skill as no exploit. Thoughts?

I agree, however is there a way to fit it NE/E on the homepage? Eg.

NE/E (Player),(Player)

Then have the Times once you click on a category? Just a thought.

I think you should just ditch Exploit in General.

1. It's an Exploit '-'
2. Whenever I try to do it, I get killed for trying to cheat, no matter which way I do it, and how long I try.
3. ye

Tiggz I dint think exploit should be ditched

1)True, but even if it gets banned, it isn't going to stop people from doing it, so it seems pointless to ban the category if people will continue to use it no matter what because its much faster. 2) I personally make the leap 7/10 times, you just need to learn it better ;) 3) ye

Kinda agreed

1. You are not allowed any other exploits on other maps besides itj

That's all my thoughts

I need to learn it better? Like I said, I've tried it many times, many different way's. Yes, ITJ isn't my best map, however, not being able to make it at all, is seriously just unfair. If the majority of the Community is in favour of keeping Exploit it's own category, that's fine. Just in my opinion, I don't like it very much.

Why only Itj? If we allow expoilts for itj then we should allow expoilt for Time Travel to, just my opinion.

Probably because ITJ is the only map with an exploit faster than the normal route (not counting the LC tree climb near the end)

I disagree mostly because E feels like more of an "Any%" category, which is usually a default

Tiggz the strat is actually super easy and you just don't understand how to do it. You can't just say a strat should be banned because "I don't know how to do it"

It's an Exploit, which was the other reason I said I don't think it should be it's own category. "It's super easy and you don't know how to do it." I've tried it many way's, as I've now stated 3 time's, I get killed for trying to cheat EVERY SINGLE time I try it. Because it's ITJ I'm not really too attached to my opinion, however at no point did I say it should be removed purely because "I don't know how to do it".

This is as far as I'm going, because I feel if I continue, this will become a full on argument. (I'm not sure why, I'm just getting that vibe)

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Getting mainly positive vibes on this desicion :P imo, exploit uses less skill. All the boosts in the tunnel saves up to 1 second :P

Exploit also uses skill because you have to maneuver around the leaves and not get caught for the best time.

Tiggz, I think your problem is you're leaping too high/early.

4 time's now, I've tried it many time's different way's, different way's meaning Height's, Distances, angle's, etc... I can't do it. '-'

kk I'm done now :)

Yeah I'm 90% sure you're the only person with this problem (at least you're the only person who's ever mentioned it that didn't ask for help and figure it out in the end)

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Tbh, It's harder for me to do the exploit, but I just think we should scrap exploit category in general. This is because on all other maps, it's banned. So why ITJ?

Paris why did u get bored of de and just got away from mc? There is other games on ur comp

Paris, we are thinking of adding TT exploit. xD We just need a route which is quicker.

Paris, there is no exploit on any other maps that is viable in a speedrun / faster than non-exploiting routes. If they found a major one for TT, they probably would add E and NE