Invalid Runs Full Game (Campaign)
4 months ago

Based on the moderator's decision the following runs are invalid and should be removed:

1. A Hard Day's Work

1.1 00:39.480 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/zn7oj57m video moment screenshot

1.2 00:39.860 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/ydw5xevm video moment screenshot

1.3 00:40.200 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/zp232qny video moment screenshot

1.4 00:40.533 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/m7gx805m video moment screenshot

1.5 00:41.953 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/zxl6opkz (video unavailable; theoretically)

1.6 00:42.167 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/y21g8k5z video moment screenshot

1.7 00:43.110 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/zn1r7v3m (not last level) video moment screenshot

1.8 00:47.510 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/y41gw7qy video moment screenshot

1.9 00:48.575 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/y413x9qy video moment screenshot

1.10 00:57.240 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/y6lp0w0y video moment screenshot

1.11 01:00.500 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/yo7j6p7m video moment screenshot

1.12 01:09.260 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/mr83qogy video moment screenshot

1.13 01:17.440 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/m3dkp5qz video moment screenshot

1.14 01:20.040 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/ydq3kl0m video moment screenshot

1.15 01:37.128 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/yo2rqx0z video moment screenshot

1.16 01:39.740 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/y8qk4d5y video moment screenshot

1.17 02:12.877 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/7z04e4jy video moment screenshot

2. Drug Bust

2.1 01:49.140 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/y23ko56m video moment screenshot

2.2 01:51.250 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/zq6rkxxy video moment screenshot

2.3 02:23.143 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/0y64pp1m video moment screenshot

2.4 02:30.560 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/z0ex4lem video moment screenshot

3. The Cell

3.1 02:35.380 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/mrq2gw8y video moment screenshot

3.2 02:40.670 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/zxvkvkey video moment screenshot

3.3 03:20.601 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/9me58x9m video moment screenshot

4. Terror at Sea

4.1 00:50.570 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/zgnl6vdy video moment screenshot

4.2 00:52.439 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/z0err79m video moment screenshot

4.3 00:58.120 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/mekw898m video moment screenshot

4.4 01:27.422 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/jy9q25vz video moment screenshot

5. Suits and Ski-Masks

5.1 01:26.133 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/ydjlgnvy video moment screenshot

5.2 01:37.180 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/zxvq05gy video moment screenshot

6. iTerror Strike

6.1 01:16.400 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/ydjnw7qy video moment screenshot

6.2 01:48.520 https://www.speedrun.com/door_kickers/runs/y456n0qm video moment screenshot

Edited by the author 4 months ago
United Kingdom

If the campaign wasn't a success then the run isn't valid. The problem is that you killed all the troopers which results in campaign failure. Buffet_Time's wording wasn't exactly correct but I'm pretty sure he rejected it for this reason.

Moderator's wording is exactly according to the rules for speedrun the full campaign:

... Time ends upon score screen of the last level (Mission Completed).

And it cannot be otherwise.

Thus, other runs don't follow this rule, ending the last level as a failure, and should be removed.

United Kingdom

If that rule is as old as the category is then there's a good chance that they just didn't consider mission loss at the time since it wasn't the strat, with the rules never getting better clarified when the strategy shifted to mission failures. It doesn't necessarily say the last level has to be completed with a success because way too much interpretation is possible. It'd be fairly illogical imo to only require the final level to be a success.

The reality is that this strat became accepted and ran by everyone for 5-6 years. The rules should be updated to reflect this and get rid of confusion. Right now there's no actual clear rules (what's allowed or not) listed at all, just the timing method rule.

What needs to be done to update the rules?

United Kingdom

Me/Buffet_Time can make any necessary changes to rules. Making it clear that campaign completed is the requirement, but that time ends on the mission completed/lost screen of the final level would be a good start I think.

Waiting for @Buffet_Time to comment about all this

United Kingdom

Edited the rules to be clearer in what's required.

Continuing the topic of the thread, the following run do not follow the rules and should be removed: 1.7.

And about runs 1.14, 2.2, 3.2 and 4.2. Is it allowed to do this?

Edited by the author 4 months ago
United Kingdom

Rejected the campaign lost run, thanks.

There's no ruling against any glitch at the moment. I don't know how to do that one.

While reviewing the replays I noticed another invalid run (Campaign lost): 1.11.

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