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QuébecZurd11 days ago

Time modifications :

Christopho from 01:33:51 to 01:33:46

Esth from 01:34:15 to 01:34:09

Kragnir from 01:35:07 to 01:35:04

DdRDan from 01:37:54 to 01:37:56

marcf999 from 01:43:56 to 01:38:22 and new IGT 01:38:16 -- the old spreadsheet I made had a huge error in it, it's now fixed which is why he is getting a much better record, wow

ExtraTricky from 01:41:30 to 01:41:31

JohnnyFranchize from 01:50:39 to 01:50:40

fitz1889 from 01:55:29 to 01:55:33

jeli from 01:57:22 to 01:57:21

superhiero from 02:05:26 to 02:04:34

Geoper from 02:05:57 to 02:05:50

waltyuen from 02:08:03 to 02:08:02

planetcarter from 02:13:2 to 02:13:22

speteman from 02:07:16 to 02:07:07

BaguetteSensei from 02:20:03 to 02:19:50

Christian_Akacro from 02:09:05 to 02:29:14

Spuzle from 02:37:17 to 02:34:15

GermanSpaceAce from 02:51:59 to 02:51:56

SteveTheBartender from 02:58:01 to 02:58:05

homeknof from 03:41:51 to 03:41:52

QuébecZurd11 days ago

I find it so interesting too. I'm actually amazed at DdRDan and BaguetteSensei buying Theory of Mind before Momentum. Still a bad strategy I think. DdRDan still is in the top leader but he just got way too lucky in Investment, only 18m10s from 100k Investment to 500m with only Investment Engine 5. Makes me wonder if he had Momentum first instead, he might actually have been at 1h32m or something like that.

As for your run, you start clicking Make paperclip at 00:00:04, your timer starts at the same time and you end at 100% Space Exploration at 1:33:50 (and not 1:33:51 like in the spreadsheet, small mistake from me, I corrected it). So 1:33:50 minus 00:00:04 is 1:33:46 official time so actually better than the 1:33:47 you are actually showing in your video :-)

I'm going on with youtube time, not using fractions, I could but would be a bigger job. Your video actually shows 1:33:46.63 at the exact moment you reach 100% so it's pretty accurate :-)

Oh I see what you mean, the Leaderboards shows 1:33:51, indeed it is wrong but I was going to fix that once the spreadsheet was complete. Still a few things to do.

QuébecZurd12 days ago

Most issues here has been resolved.

New thread "Timing - Official Spreadsheet" is now taking over.

Locking this thread here so we don't get lost :)

QuébecZurd12 days ago

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZKReKxRER8ti2DmhnEbvnx92wudQwy_3/view?usp=sharing

The new official spreadsheet of all speedrun records. I made a new one from scratch!

With AI, I was able to calculate the Investment Chance. I gave it the Investment JS code and ask it to calculate the chance. The only one standing out is DdRDan with 1 chance out of 2403 and Esth with 1 chance out of 1245. Quite lucky but not impossible. Still hard to say anything but we can add more columns for a better analysis. As of now, every run seems legit. But the analysis does not uses the Hostile Takeover and Full Monopoly columns. Will be for another time.

I used the Model GPT-5.6 Sol — High reasoning with this : "I reran 1,000,000 simulations per run using one identical model: $100k starting bankroll, High risk, no later deposits, and the Engine level in your spreadsheet for the whole investment interval. The actual investment code uses the Engine level to set the gain threshold."

So it's not a perfect analysis but quite fun to compare. It kind of matches that the best run have higher chances.

RatHound : his youtube video is unavailable, I asked this user 4 months ago to put the video back but no answer. There's way too many mistakes in the timing so his record has been deleted. He had 2h 09m 30s Time and 2h 02m 50s IGT, 8 years ago so it's actually very easy to do again if he chooses to come back.

AprilSR : same problem, video unavailable, same again, I message the user 4 months ago and this user replied 3 months after saying the video is gone, told them both that they can easily do better and I offered my help. This user had 2h 08m 13s of Time, 2h 10 50s of IGT, 6 years ago.

I'm also uploading an image in case the Google Drive in the future does not work anymore.

To Do

There is quite a few timing modifications to do, some seconds here and there. Will do it soon.

Veloso : If anyone remember the weird IGT greater than RT timing, this one is the only one with the problem. The timing is entered correctly in the spreadsheet but still a difference of 3m and 27s which is a lot, it's not just a few seconds like the others which was because the start and end calculation was wrong. I have messaged the user 4 months ago about this but no answer. This is the only user with this problem. Like I said before, I tried everything to reproduce that issue but was never able to. I'll give the user more months and if anyone has any idea on why this is happening but if no answer, this record will be Rejected.

And there's also the issue of the keyboard delay. To be investigated. When pressing the Enter key, there is a delay in a web browser but a lot of people do not have it. Again, if anyone has a theory on this, let us know!

QuébecZurd24 days ago

Oh, Geoper is still there with another run of 2m 5m 57s. Website is kind of weird, there can be multiple records "hidden". Haven't analyze it yet but coming soon, keeping it for now.

QuébecZurd24 days ago

Geoper run has been rejected. Like I said, clearly a script at 00:52. Not that it's a record breaking run but since we clearly see he's using a script, maybe the script does something else too. Worst part is that the script actually made his run worse. So he can always do a better one in the future. He had 02:00:50. Available here : youtube.com/watch?v=LHSYe0bndwA

I modified a bit the Rules of the game, stating no script like AHK. Even though I wouldn't mind a script that makes 30 Clips Per Seconds, the thing is that we cannot tell what it does. Maybe it does 31 Clicks Per Seconds or something else.

New category with Patch 0 in the Leaderboards. Let's just keep them for history.

I'm still working on the new spreadsheet of Investments. Esth run is pretty solid and lucky in Investments but not as much as someone else. I've marked his run as Verified and he is back with the WR, congrats! I will share the spreadsheet in another thread, this one is getting too long, I just want to close it and move forward. Coming kind of soon, probably 2 weeks.

QuébecZurd24 days ago

Investment spreadsheet calculation is coming. Will keep the records. Was really lucky at the end but actually at the start, wasn't that lucky. Still a really good run but seems legit. Closing this thread.

QuébecZurd1 month ago

Impossible to prove you are Est on the other forum. Even if the nickname was Esth with an h. Still old forum post of 7 years ago.

I still have to check the best runs and check the investment. Yours still appears to be way too lucky. Like it's been said before, this game is easy to cheat. If possible, make a new run. Your run is still in Pending state. Hasn't been deleted.

As for AprilSR, this user replied about the missing twitch video, this speedrun record will not be deleted, we can't verify the time but it's 2h10m50s so nothing special about it, can be easily beaten.

QuébecZurd3 months ago

At the very least, don't use my routine, it'll be worse but I'm still trying new things :)

QuébecZurd3 months ago

That was added by the last moderator and I removed it. He probably offered it to make a new category for this type of gaming. I could make one but aside from Stage 1, you won't need it after so I don't think it would be interesting.

QuébecZurd3 months ago

Yah it was in the rules before but it was always assumed that it's the first interaction, I just made it more clear.

But even after you clicked Make Paperclips, you then go start the timer, so there's still a one second difference :)

QuébecZurd3 months ago

The words are different, the meaning is the same. Note that it's the rules for desktop but you're playing Mobile which have different rules. You can see them in the Leaderboards, there is a Rules button.

QuébecZurd3 months ago

Rules of Desktop :

Timing starts when first paperclip is made. Timing stops when "Message from the Emperor of Drift" appears and the ticker says "Universal Paperclips achieved in [your IGT]". This IGT must be visible in your run. Your enter button should repeat 30 times per second or less when held. If you're interested in submitting runs with higher frequencies, contact the mods.

Modified to :

Timing starts with the first interaction in the game: "Make paperclip", "lower" or "raise".

Your ENTER button should be the default of the Operating System and Web Browser.

Timing stops when reached 100% of Space Exploration, must be visible in your run when you reached it.

The In-Game-Time (IGT) in the top console must also be visible at the end.

QuébecZurd3 months ago

I've removed Patch and Browser from Any% Mobile since it does not apply to mobile.

As for the PC in Platform, there is nothing to do with the old records, we have no idea if it was Android or iOS but not important.

I've added the Platform iOS since it was missing.

QuébecZurd3 months ago

You just got the new World Record, congrats !

We haven't asked you for anything haha, I've been grinding for 2 weeks again and still nowhere this :D

So you're saying RT 1:34:18 and IGT 1:34:19 so IGT is higher than RT

However, I calculated RT 1:34:22 and IGT 1:34:19, so IGT lower than RT

RT is always supposed to be higher than IGT

You started clicking on the first button "lower" at 00:00:03 and finished at 01:34:25 so clearly it's 1:34:22 RT.

Which now, I understand the small differences in seconds in many runs. When you start clicking on "lower" button or any other buttons, then the Real Timer starts but after that you go and click on your own timer so you lose time. A few seconds granted but it accounts for those mysterious seconds I am wondering about for a long time.

I've seen what you did in Stage 3 (Drifters versus Total), going to go and try it but yes, another thread, let's keep this thread on the same subject please :)

QuébecZurd4 months ago

I think Christopho explains it well when he modified the keyboard input delay, I don't see what anything else can be made to achieve an RT less than IGT. Maybe others who has the weird timing did something similar, either modifying the keyboard input or the mouse input.

Complete list of weird timing where RT is less than IGT:

Christopho - 4s - 5y ago

SteveTheBartender - 5s - 5y ago

Veloso - 3m31s - 5y ago

RiaCorvidiva - 0s - 5y ago

jeli - 3s - 4y ago

homeknopf - 3s - 2y ago

With that being said, let's keep those records even if the timing is weird. Still feel legit.

Note that I added a new guide : Game Changelog, if you think something else can be added in it, let me know.

Also won't removed IGT time, let's keep it to prove that IGT is just a bad way to calculate the time since Firefox is really bad at it.

I'm not sure about keeping records of Patch 0 in the Leaderboards, only 2 people have it from 8 years ago which is Elipsis and vivafringe, nowhere near a record and there was a few issue with this version where you can cheat. Anyone's else opinion in this is appreciated. See the Game Changelog, Patch 0 and Patch 1 was only available for a few days, everything else is Patch 2. I also checked people' record with 7 years ago record and they are running Patch 2.

QuébecZurd5 months ago

Your runs has been accepted. As for automations, definitely not allowed. The ENTER key trick is though.

QuébecZurd5 months ago

Hi speteman, there is clearly no standard for Creativity generation. Indeed, Mac, Windows, Internet Browsers will behave differently. Which is why I just added the Operating System + Version and also Internet Browsers + Version in the Leaderboards. Most will be empty and never filled out but new runs will have that information. You're more than welcome to use whatever you prefer.

The keyboard repeat rate is usually maxed at around 30 per second and indeed, depends on the Operating Systems and the Internet Browsers but they are all extremely close to each other, I've tested them all. I doubt it will change in the future. Of course, you can run a customized Firefox which make more but that rules has always been to be near 30 which will still be followed. If a run makes more than that, it will probably be rejected.

QuébecZurd5 months ago

MissDesGames has responded by saying I can delete the video since it's unavailable, might do another record in the future so it's been deleted.

QuébecZurd5 months ago

I will review your video shortly.

Scripting and automations have always been disallowed. If you think one runs of somebody else is made with it, open up a post about it and we can analyze it. They are actually easy to spot :-)

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