Are you buffering the can like you do with the moon stone, else you could try the exact same manip without the a presses outside of the gym

i can buffer the can? lol I tried buffering the second can but it didnt work

Im talking about the first can, only the movement till the first can matters. You could try this manip if it really doesnt work consistently for you

I tried that one, i couldnt even get it once lol