this nightreign speedrun already relies or a huge amount of luck bc of the set circle times and random night bosses so why are we banning weapons bc they take luck to get. thats like banning looting in minecraft speedrunning. like now every run has to be alot of luck without legendary sword instead of alot of luck with legendary sword like come on guys. speedrunning is the fastest to beat a game not the fair competition between runners where luck is not a thing

I think the fact that you can do Intentional seeding by restarting the map is the key to getting optimal speedrun as well as cheated in relics once you do both Marias or Grafted sword become more of a problem then a good drop if you ask me personally Maybe you can check some Videos of current WR holders and you will understand. I think rules are extremly loose on defeat Nightlord for any speedrunner that wants to Break the game! Cheers

Mainly it's to stop every single speedrun just being a reroll until you get mirias day 1 run.

I agree alot of things are already luck but the impact of getting a mirias or grafted day 1 is so huge it invalidates any other strategy unlike anything else. So if you want a speedrun time you'd just have to reroll until you get one. Every run would look and feel the same as the bosses aren't being killed by good timing on abilities or strategies, but from the effect of a single drop that you rerolled 100 times to get.

You could make a seperate grafted/mirias leaderboard but nobody would run it because it's just boring.

I think removing those swords is healthy for speedrunning this game to keep it interesting and see strategies develop and improve