Possible shortcuts?
7 months ago
Śląskie, Poland

Hey there!

I want to present to you possible shortcuts, that might give you some time saves. These are experimental and you should test them by yourselfs!

Chapter V

As I stated before, risky shortcut involving going down on the rafters. By that way you can go to mine crater faster, however you need to help Thomas deal with enemies too in order to progress further, because otherwise Thomas will shoot with them forever.

Chapter IV

There might be a minor shortcuts presented on these GIF's. Involving jumping & climbing, you might bypass some sensors and maybe advance further! Who knows. Do them wisely! Devs forgot to add some barriers there, so its your chance :D

Edited by the author 7 months ago
Czech Republic

Hey! Nice finds, however the one in chapter V will definitely be slower as you ideally want to kill all the enemies before your brother starts shooting at them as that will stall his progress in walking towards the town. Mayyyybe you can snipe them all out as Thomas and then take this route but I still think the benefits are minimal at best.

Śląskie, Poland

Thanks for the heads up!

Czech Republic

I tested it for a bit, with a little lineup it can be done even faster than on your video. You can drop all the way down without taking any damage. However, as I expected, your progress gets stalled by your brother and his endless battle with the enemies up there. From below it's much harder to dispatch of them quickly and even if you hit the checkpoint, your brother will make no progress. I'll give it some more testing time when I have the time for it myself, if there's any way to rubberband your brother, it will be a nice time save. Have a good day!

Śląskie, Poland

That's true. I actually did once managed to do that. If you have ChromED Editor you can check where are the barriers located in the map. Also idk if Thomas route after windmill falls down is faster, or Ray's faster. I always use Ray because he has two weapons and generally dynamite which can just make things better. Some runs were made before I started using dynamite strats like in Ghost Town or in the pending sub 10 minute run of Chapter IV or the last episode.

Śląskie, Poland

Also I did find other "Out Of Bounds" glitches on Chapter IV so check them out:

Śląskie, Poland

And if you can trigger this glitch without any hardware problems (like I had, disk stuttered at loading causing this, also disk stuttered while i tried Chapter III it was after i played Chapter III) you'll be basically a god

Edited by the author 11 days ago
Śląskie, Poland

Check out the "Resources" page i uploaded ChromED editor if you want and instruction of how to check custom maps. Btw while in editor press G to not to have Camera Spazms and roam free around.

Śląskie, Poland

I tested it for a bit, with a little lineup it can be done even faster than on your video. You can drop all the way down without taking any damage. However, as I expected, your progress gets stalled by your brother and his endless battle with the enemies up there. From below it's much harder to dispatch of them quickly and even if you hit the checkpoint, your brother will make no progress. I'll give it some more testing time when I have the time for it myself, if there's any way to rubberband your brother, it will be a nice time save. Have a good day!

Maybe try throwing dynamites and killing enemies first down side and then those up from dynamites or rifle. Then if you will kill them all, dont wait for your brother - GO! Because they forgot to put "Don't leave your brother" hint so he'll teleport after. It will be when you reach the little town with the gun shop that the prompt will eventually appear.

Czech Republic

Dynamite is an interesting idea, I'm not sure how consistent that will be, though. The first checkpoint where your brother TPs to you, as far as I'm aware, is the one where you first meet Devlin in the saloon. I actually took advantage of this one in my pending run of Chapter V, feel free to check that one out. For the full game run it's pretty much irrelevant, though, as Thomas is faster than Ray in this mission. I'll upload a run on Thomas shortly.

Edited by the author 11 days ago
Alfredo_Anonym likes this
Śląskie, Poland

Dynamite is an interesting idea, I'm not sure how consistent that will be, though. The fist checkpoint where your brother TPs to you, as far as I'm aware, is the one where you first meet Devlin in the saloon. I actually took advantage of this one in my pending run of Chapter V, feel free to check that one out. For the full game run it's pretty much irrelevant, though, as Thomas is faster than Ray in this mission. I'll upload a run on Thomas shortly.

Sure. On Chapter I utilize Dynamite too. I got close to poc 13:47 i got 13:48 (1 sec from his video that would give me around 13:40 total time) if pat would count it. It's just easy to beat the Chapter I but i didn't utilize the dynamite.

Edited by the author 11 days ago
Czech Republic

I have a 12:18 pending run in Chapter I. I saw there was a run with golden rangers approved, so if they're allowed (they might as well be since we can upload a save game with them unlocked), I can probably do a sub 12.

Alfredo_Anonym likes this
Śląskie, Poland

It could probably be lower because idk how @bazookapat counts the record in here, on recording you might have like 12:18 but could be like 12:15 or 12:13 still don't know to this very day :D

Edited by the author 11 days ago
Kubenko1337 likes this
Śląskie, Poland

Btw would love to see you smashing the actual full game speedrun leaderboard here. I hope many players will come to this game and try it out because it is fun speedrunning indeed.

Czech Republic

I plan on doing just that! But I need to do it when I have time to sit playing the game for the whole day. I already did a segmented run beating the WR by about 25 minutes, it's really important to test it chapter by chapter, the WR is Ray only, but in some chapters Thomas is significantly faster. Thanks! This game sucks to speedrun IMHO due to your brother stalling you, but it makes for an interesting challenge to make him progress as fast as possible. I speedrun this game because it's my favorite game of all time, it has a big place in my heart and I want my name associated with it in some way!

Edited by the author 11 days ago
Śląskie, Poland

Yeah, especially in Chapter II where i'm already ahead killing guys and that stupid prompt appears to wait for the brother. If you down we can do Cartel Coop (ik this game disliked by many but i would love to do a coop) one day because we found a way how to play it in COOP. And this game (BiB) seems unbreakable unless you fuck up something in the memory (maybe you corrupt some item, or something) and you might trigger even bigger skips (that Chapter IV memory glitch) if you can scoop out some sensors or barriers that developers might not have put correctly you might smash it even more.

Czech Republic

Also idk if Thomas route after windmill falls down is faster, or Ray's faster.

I forgot to respond to this, Thomas is much faster in chapter V overall.

Edited by the author 10 days ago
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