hello i have a question with the rules and berlindude's run
1 year ago
South Korea

Play the Game as one player until the end. Time Starts when selecting the Normal Mode. Time ends when kicking the Endboss in Level 100 when he is captured in a bubble (he flies out of the screen). Secret Door Appears only when you play until Level 50 without dying Version.

This is the original rule. But in my knowledge and in most of the game play videos in youtube, it seems like there is no screen that can choose between normal game and super game. So i searched from https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/arcade/583720-bubble-bobble/cheats this page. it says you need super mode cheat code to open the screen which is seen in berlindude's run. I want to know if he used this kind of code and whether i need to use this cheat code or not to run the category.

(Actually i heard some things from the 2 runner who did 2 players any% recently and after that mod changed the rules. BUT honestly, i think it needs to be changed not to use cheat code or hidden code instead of "Secret Door Appears only when you play until Level 50 without dying Version". This might can confuse some new runners and it can cause to use other cheat codes like power up code or some other thing.)

Berlin, Germany

So i actually used the US Version of Bubble Bobble I found for the Arcade. In any case I understand that there are many different versions outside. I didn´t know that, thought all Versions are the same since the strategywiki explained how it has to be used in the US Version I think,

However i never really changed the rules, I was just not aware that there are versions where the secret door appears even when you die. This is not a good speedrun for me since the secret door for skipping the Levels 51 - 69 should be a reward of not dying until that time (thats how my game works, if I die the secret door is not spawning). And there should be a challenge for everyone.

I also made a tutorial and everyone who would like to learn this speedrun should be able to get a deathless run until Level 50 or - play Levels 51 - 69 in a normal way if the player dies on the way to Level 50.

Cheat codes never have been used from my side and all players should go for the same. It would be a mess if the different versions of the Arcade Version will cause different categories. All should be handled the same since its not an good idea, when the same game is splitted into different versions what seemed to just be unfinished since I think the US Arcade Version is the final product, where you don´t spawn the secret door skipping levels when you die on the way to Level 50.

Good Luck to all the runners, I wll post the video in 2 Days on Youtube together with helpful links to the speedrun and hope all understand my point of view of this speedrun since there has to be a challenge for speedrun strats otherwise just using an early mode of the game what seems not finished is not correct in my eyes.

Good Luck to All the runners, sorry I was very busy in the last weeks. I will answer all questions if needed. But Rules never had been changed. I was just not aware that there existing unfinished versions outside there. So I recommend to use the US Version.

South Korea

Just one more thing. I heard that you rejected the co-op run because they opened the door with dying. But in my knowledge seriously, this game opens the secret door if only one of the player didn't die until 50 stage. This is all version same and i think it is also challenge to make at least one player to be lived until 50 stage. i want to know if the version you have doesn't open that secret door if one of the player died at co-op.

It seems like the one you are using is bubble bobble (US with mode select) but i think we should use more popular and basic version. Maybe your purpose of the category might be start timer at mode select but usually we don't have that verion. I suggest to use the normal verion of the game (which rom's name is bublbobl) and to start timer when you start the game(not at selecting the mode cause normal and popular rom doesn't have selecting mode.) If you are concerning about if the secret door opens even if you die, you don't have to worry about it cause every version can't open it except you don't die until stage 50 or cheat code.

Edited by the author 1 year ago
Berlin, Germany

I did open 2 new categories. I tried playing the game when only one player died (player 2) and player 1 not. It did not open or lets say it was not there. I can try again but maybe it also has to do something to not get go into using credits I dont know. In any case the guys can now submit to the new category where they can die and still get the secret door. I will try myself again one day with only 1 player not dying and see if the door is there. But I tried that before and it did not work. Lets see.