SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom Forum  /  Why is there a requirement for capture cards for runs
  SizzylSizzyl

Video and Audio Proof Threshold: 1:05:00

Capture Card Threshold: 55:00

^I can understand requiring video and audio proof, but why is there a need for capture cards at 55:00? What could that showcase that someone recording their whole TV + setup cannot (assuming they somehow get a solid quality recording of their setup). I don't plan on running this game rn, but I'm just curious as this was brought up in the talk forums.

 
  StarTheGamerStarTheGamer
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i think the capture card threshold is for quality purposes, not sure tho

 
  TakeASickyTakeASicky

Hey Sizzyl,

The requirement for a capture card after reaching the 55m threshold (something only the top 5-6% have done) reflects the need for higher quality audio and video that can be analysed by the mod team using techniques/tools that would enable them to more easily identify a splice or other tampering in a cheated run.

Btw I'm not a mod or anything, I'm just a runner who joined in October this year and initially submitted runs with no proof before providing proof once I got a tripod for my smartphone (I now have a capture card, so I'll be using that instead going forward).

Hope you give it a go, running this game is awesome.

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  kyokyo

There are many hints that tell of a spliced run that can unfortunately not be easily found with footage from a camera pointed at a television. A capture card requirement ensures that no time below 55:XX cannot be verified beyond a reasonable doubt.

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  skyweissskyweiss

additionally the capture card cutoff also acts as an emu cutoff since emu gameplay isn't capture card gameplay. it's just a way of saying "higher proof standards when you get to this time" and includes everything that gets wrapped under that bow

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  BikerBonesBikerBones

People say the cutoff is because they wanna eliminate the chance of a spliced or TAS'd run getting on the boards, but this game is extremely hard to splice anyways because of the HUD animations needing to line up perfectly, SpongeBob's damage animations needing to progress sequentially, needing to have the exact right amount of socks and shinies, etc. And who's gonna bother TASing a run for GameCube anyways? Even if you did everything in the WR route first try, GameCube would be off by minutes. It's not possible to get a new record on Dolphin, so I honestly don't understand the cutoff. Probably just general "Emulator isn't REALLY playing the game" BS. People tend to get uppity about anyone who didn't pay for a console being allowed to submit runs for whatever reason.

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  StarTheGamerStarTheGamer
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exactly

 
  StarTheGamerStarTheGamer

but for the socks, shinies and other stuff DME exists

 
  ZootSlideZootSlide

you would be suprised by how much people want to cheat in this game honestly