Should CMG/Flashpoint become a category?
3 years ago
Canada
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3 years ago

There are multiple differences between the flashpoint version and the coolmathgames version of the game, notable examples being; flashpoint slows down super easily while playing the game, but the "Level Complete" GUI appears instantly, while on CMG it appears after roughly 2 seconds. Should they be their own category or left as a tag?

Vote here I guess https://www.strawpoll.me/45518496

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Minnesota, USA

i feel as long as coolmath games continues to support it flashpoint shouldn't be allowed. If there is more demand for this game maybe we can have separate categories. I couldn't find a good .swf link for the game but that would be another option too

Canada
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3 years ago

I've been running this game exclusively on flashpoint tho :(

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Minnesota, USA

i played the first level on the dinogames version and noticed a lot of things fundamentally different

  1. the menu. Not a huge deal but you don't need to click a separate tab to buy guns unlike CMG

  2. level complete. As you said the levels finish faster and assuming 2 seconds, gives a 30 second advantage over CMG

  3. The performance. Im not sure the amount by I got at least 60fps. Depending on your computer, this increase in performance may save time. (I'm just assuming that CMG runs slower)

  4. The AI. I played level 1 once, and I had to kill 4 tanks before level complete vs the 2 i usually kill. The AI on the tanks was also a lot more active. The enemies started charging as soon as they had line of sight rather than waiting. Could this make up for the 30 seconds?

  5. standalone app (.swf file). The fact that it is an app instead of a browser makes it so that you cant click off the edge. I couldn't but if someone can find the coolmathgames .swf link/file that would be amazing. This reason shouldn't really be considered though.

These are just my observations and why I think that it is different enough from CMG where it should either be not included, separate, or creating a standard where you can only play on CMG vise versa.

Side note: Another game I play called chibi knight has a similar issue. One version runs faster but has a lengthier boss fight. I seem to be the only one to get that version working though so I just use the one that everyone else does. those versions aren't separate.

Canada
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3 years ago

That is a surprising amount of detail for a post about a 9 year old flash game lol, so for now I'll keep it as a tag - if the board ever gets a boost of popularity (like having an EazySpeezy video made on it like what happened with Sushi Cat [A series in which I moderate one of the games]), then I'll change it to a category. Thankyou :)

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Minnesota, USA

you should see the detail i put in an 11 year old flash game...

Minnesota, USA

New tidbits!

just tried a whole run of NewGame+ and got a 4:10 with a gold on every single level. (1:12 improvement; not recorded)

Other differences I noticed:

  1. camera lock. The camera stays locked for a few seconds at the beginning of each level and this seems to be 2-3 seconds shorter

  2. AI again. Holy shit these guys are fucking cracked up they drift goddamn circles around you at the speed of fuckin light you cant keep track of them what the hellllll

3 AI again again. The rocket tanks in particular suck at aiming (compared to CMG) along with the rest of them

4 level select. Selecting levels is instant compared to the about half-second delay in CMG

There is no way these 2 games can be compared against each other. I think separate categories is kind of pointless unless speazy comes in. Unless someone really advocates for CMG I'm gonna be switching to dinogames. was nice knowing you buddy

Canada
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3 years ago

alrighty then

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Madrid, Spain

I agree that CMG and Flashpoint should be different categories since the differences are very big specially on full game runs and also to make the leaderboards look more similar to awesome tanks 2. Id like to know if its possible to obtain the flashpoint version of awesome tanks on a mobile, android or IOS to be able to compete in those categories too.

Canada
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3 years ago

To my knowledge, that is not possible to do on IOS.

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Madrid, Spain

I expected that, what about android?

Canada
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3 years ago

I believe all mobile versions are their own game with ~125 levels.

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Madrid, Spain

I know there is a different awesome tanks game on the play store and appstore. However it still might be possible to get the Flashpoint version of the 2012 web game in Android through APKs

Madrid, Spain

also. If there were different categories for flashpoint and cool math games, would the ILs be separated too?

Minnesota, USA

unless we can find a consistent way to time then yeah. the dinogames version ends instantly while CMG has a few second wait. not only that but enemy AI is slightly different

Canada
Super moderator4d9r
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3 years ago

Very well then. It shall become a sub-category.

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Canada
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3 years ago

Done.

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Madrid, Spain

Now the question is the ILs, the ILs arent nearly as affected by the version given that menuing and loading differences (the biggest) arent present here and the fact that times are rounded down to the second makes it so if theres any difference of, lets say, .2s, it doesnt really matter

Canada
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He/Him, They/Them
3 years ago

IL runs are very short compared to Full Game runs. .2 seconds in a IL run is like 30 seconds in a Full Game run. I get that we don't measure milliseconds on this leaderboard, but you get the idea.

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