Anyways, this post will move us on into page two of the discussion!

Potion Categories: What to change, and what to intergrate, with solutions to board complications. Should we instead of having tabs: [No Potion] [Used Potion] tabs. Instead, we should actually have : [300%] [600%] tabs.

Reasons to do it:

• It's simple to weave out the times who used one potion, or two. Checking their buffs at a certain time-stamp and then noting it. Both my and biscuits only used one potion; we'd automatically be placed in the [300%] Category, rather than [Used Potion]. I argue this because the second item is not a potion, but an elixir. Which, it could also be used subsequently to be placed in the [300%] tab if they did not have a Rapid Mind Potion.
• I plan on challenging his [Used Potion] ie: [300%] run, quite soon. It is easy for newer players, as I'll explain later.
• I, and I'm sure biscuit, along with others, would plan on running [300%] and [600%] separately.

This isn't a gold gimmick to players, many of us have some of these stocked up, farming isn't an issue, we still raid casually/semi hardcore, or are other speedrunners. It actually would just expand the board for players who don't have as good RNG getting drops off of the Elixir mobs, as well as to speedrunners who are new who could be helped out by someone with extra potions, who could not easily perform [600%]. Even though it is Legion, not everyone has the most gold or time to consider farming for potions like this if they are a raider and just want to part-time speedrun WoW.

Just a suggestion. It's simple, take an evening to weave the boards, not much to move, add a tab, rename two tabs. B) :D

Moving onto a suggestion about All Vanilla Categories; I have not test run it yet, but i have routed it completely, to the best of my knowledge, for Alliance - Mage - and using a preset Hearthstone used later in the run. It's a start. I'll do a run / pastebin of it for those who could be interested in how I routed a longer category. This brings me onto another topic though that i'm adamant about, and that's All Crusade Dungeons, and All Wrath Dungeons, being added. I'm more so 1/2 way in the process of routing both, and would have runs done, uploaded, and ready to be verified within the week.

Other All Dungeons Categories: what to add, Plus, future discussion. We should have tabs: [All Burning Crusade Dungeons] or [All BC Dungeons] We should have tabs: [All Lich King Dungeons] or [All WotLK Dungeons]

I believe, at this point are short enough, and will have runs soon up on the board for verification.Hopefully, others are interested in running the BC dungeons, as a few of them in terms of routing are much more fun, short, and have rare drops. Heck, mostly all of these dungeons have rare drops. If you make a mistake and gold a segment, just make note of it. It's not hard to do in a run where there's downtime flying.

• Sorry for the long post, just felt I needed to get that off my chest, but also a suggestion and to get us on a nice Page 2 -

¤EDIT¤: I wanted to also get opinions on when they feel they'd feel comfortable enough to integrate "All Raids" for each expansion, needless to say the other "All Dungeons" categories for their respective expansions. I don't mind "All Vanilla Raids", "All BC" raids, and "All WotLK Raids" being added as tabs soon, if you don't mind adding them. I'ts Fri. for me so I'm getting ready to clear them over the weekend. I could quickly optimize a route for mage, render, and get it uploaded for verification as an example run. If that sounds like something we could work on, let me know.

I like the idea of 300% and 600% tabs in place of the used potion category. Then we avoid the same potion vs no potion thing we had before of different runs in the same category.

Grats on that 1 to 10 no heirlooms time btw, that was damn fast :D

¤Before I Forget¤ Thanks, if you noticed, I could have just said "F" it and gotten a near 34/35, but I was wanting to integrate that good run into a 1-20 run as well. I'll get the 34/35 one day in 1-20. The nerf from level 4 PWS really sucks till later now, that's pretty much what makes the difference in the Draenor and Legion times. One spell change, lol. (Except the Lock runs that are 3min). :P

Thank you, another reason I say that is due to this: He is a verified Youtube content creator and goes about how to get the Elixir. It's harder to get than the potion, which supports your point biscuit. :) The other thing is that these Elixirs drop rates were nerfed due to them "inadvertently" interfering with Level 100 sales, as you could imagine, and mostly are camped.

I't simply why i suggested [Nothing] [300%] [600%], this is also a change that could be made to the 1-20 looms because I plan to do those soon. No reason to make this kind of change ever to 1-10 no looms. :P

It's probably have videos, typed routes for mage, and everything uploaded for those categories, then it'd just be time for someone to beat it.

Sorry to post so much, but this is an extension to the All Dungeons and tabs talk. Their tabs can be there, but then they could also be sub-tabbed just like Potion currently is, and hopefully will change to the % method.

So change: All Vanilla Dungeons To have: [Solo] [5-Man] tabs. Just another flashback from earlier talk, but kind of needed to be brought up, take care of it all in about 20 minutes of editing tabs and sections.

¤ Also, note: Adding the rest of the "All Dungeons" for their respective expansions up until WotLK would fill the 2nd tab row B)