Hey, since sadrunslive asked us to do a thread for a poll let's do this!

I am using this rather bloated term in the title because it does not only include the LFG and the AH, but also other already banned behavior like guilds (the runner has to join!) and premade groups. It means that we as runners have to rely on our own ability and nothing else!

Of course there will always be some interaction with other players like when killing questmobs. Or another player nicking a rare from us. But that is something that we will never have any influence over. There is a major difference between the runner actively seeking out other players so they help him for his advantage and other players randomly killing our mobs!

Having the LFG allowed per default makes runtimes arbitrary and every planning beyond level 15 is useless. Just figure out the best route to 15 on a class that will be able to queue as tank, the rest will be LFG-lottery, most of it beyond our controll.

I am not against having categories that allow for LFG, but right now it is the standard category, whereas I sincerely feel that the standard category should be as pure as possible. Of course it will slow a run down. But not by forcing us doing a less than optimal route. But by forcing us to use a route we build ourselves. Not one built upon the heirloomgear of other human players!

Let me kill the animals. Not them! :D

PS: While I understood the "have half of the people who submitted a run within the last month"-rule, I find it very harsh. From what I have seen so far the forums are used by only a small amount of the people who actually post runs, even getting half of them to read this post will be tough. I hope that this might be reconsidered, if this thread gets some positive response. : )

So, everybody is in favor of using groups?

So sad having to rely solely on 4 others (who do use heirlooms!) to get good times for everything from level 15 and on.

For no heirloom just getting there takes quite some time. And then getting a shit group on the third run and restart without having done anything wrong yourself after like 3hrs. It's really bad.

And also it is absolutely impossible to make sure there isn't any abuse of the LFG "random" queueing with friends.

I will not be banning groups, but I will offer an option to sort by MMO interaction, which will include: Auction House Black Market Auction House Incoming, Non-game generated mail (Example of acceptable mail: Level 60 congratulations, MoP introduction mail, etc.) Grouping of any sorts Guilds Duels Pet Battles with other people Using the Que interface (Arenas, Battlegrounds, Dungeons, anything else)

If I think of anything else, I will add it here.

So it will basically be another filter/sort thing like the potions and race one?

It would make it so we can at one glance see who did use groups and who not, so it's big improvement. I still think that not-grouping ought to be the standard, but this sounds like an awfully big step up! For now we don't really have a lot of runs in any >10 categories anyway, so it does not feel like the biggest of deals, but let's hope it changes a bit. :]