Addition of two new "puzzle" categories.
5 years ago

Minimum B Presses and Max Keys are two new 'puzzle categories'. The rules are only going to state what is required for completion, leaving players the opportunity to figure out how it's done and route it for speed. Familiarize yourself with the maps and available glitches. Arbitrary Code Execution is not presumed to be used.

Max Keys just means finishing a quest with the highest number of keys possible without buying keys from a shop.

Minimum B presses means using your B button items the fewest number of times possible to complete a quest. Don't miss your Gohma shot!

In particular, Minimum B Second Quest is unreasonably difficult to achieve due to requiring hitting 3 Dodongos with one bomb. We'd like to have it sorted by Time subordinate to lowest B score, but speedrun.com doesn't directly support that so we'll have to rig something up to make that work. In the meantime, feel free to submit runs that didn't one-shot all Dodongos.

Also make sure to post here if you're almost certain the min/max is inaccurate.

Edited by the author 5 years ago
Michigan, USA

Max Keys. "10 in Second Quest (we think)"

from what i see you can only have 9 keys at the end of 2Q.

the only keys you leave out are in level 8. the Any key. and a key before that(red bubble room). which would take a key to get to. so i assume we can skip that key.

lvl1 (+1), lvl2 (+5), lvl3 (0), lvl4 (+3), lvl5 (+1), lvl6 (0), lvl7 (+1), lvl8 (0), lvl9 (-2) = (+9)

California, USA

Does that consider a khananakey?

Edited by the author 5 years ago
Michigan, USA

It does not. Just looked at a video of it for the first time right now. Is there a place that explains how this works somewhere? And or how it's done?

Edit. If I understand it correctly, I see 3 doors. One in lvl2, lvl6 and lvl8, that are candidate key doors. (2, push block, shudder door) (6, bomb wall) (8, bomb wall) In level 2 youve got a block in the way between the push block and the key door, that seems a problem. The one in level 8, the bomb wall appears to be too far away to get to the door in time.

Do you have to be at zero keys for this to work?

So if only level 6 works, which you could do at zero keys. that puts you at 10 total for the run.

Edited by the author 5 years ago
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California, USA

Have to be at 0 keys, pushing against the key door as a bomb hole or shutter opens

The “how” is that all doors open temporarily while those doors open

Not sure the exact duration, but no more than 0.25s I’d say

Edited by the author 5 years ago
California, USA

3 of these are done in 1Q routing, so those dungeons have to be revisited

For a timing example, consider the room preceding digdogger in 1Q-5. You must bomb up from the 3rd row as far left as you can and then race to the door ... only a couple frames to square up and pass through

Edited by the author 5 years ago
Michigan, USA

understood. thanks for the info, much appreciated.

rooslugs likes this
California, USA

Join me in Max Keys land 😄

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