Wii Party U Forum  /  Categories/Category Extensions
  TehWhackTehWhack
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Hey folks, just making a main thread to handle posts relating to the run categories.

The categories made for this game were intentionally streamlined to keep the game competitive with fewer categories. I've looked into making other categories such as Highway Rollers, The Balldozer, Mii Fashion Plaza, Team Building, Battle of the Minigames, Tabletop Tournament, etc. However, the only one that makes an appropriate speedrun category is Dojo Domination for regular, 1-player minigames.

Dojo Domination is a concise representation of the All Play minigames without unnecessary elements of RNG that come with TV Party games or the luck-based minigames (Hide-and-Go-Beak and Run to the Sun). Also, in theory, there could be 30+ categories that could come from TV Party games including all 5 difficulties that the game offers. Dojo Domination takes away the unnecessary RNG and excessive categories making way for one competitive category.

This does leave a few possible categories: Co-op Games, 1 vs. Rivals (from Minigame Collection) and Tabletop Games. Namely with things like Gamepad Island and Water Runner for co-op, and Tabletop Gauntlet's Time Attack mode. If you have runs put together for these potential categories (Including, but not limited to the categories I've already mentioned) with a solid set of rules, please submit to this thread as you would with a regular game submission to speedrun.com.

Thanks!

EDIT: Demolition Row has been added as a category on Feb. 19, 2018.
EDIT 2: Added a blurb on why TV Party games are not included at the current time on Mar. 29, 2018.
EDIT 3: 1 vs. Rivals has been added as a category on May 14, 2018.
EDIT 4: TV Party, Battle of the Minigames, and GamePad Party have all been added as header categories on June 27th, 2018.

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  Wipeoutjack7Wipeoutjack7

So games such as ”Highway Rollers, The Balldozer, Mii Fashion Plaza, Team Building, Battle of the Minigames, Tabletop Tournament, etc.” are 100% not going to be added?

 
  TehWhackTehWhack
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@Wipeoutjack7

For now, TV Party game categories (with the exception on GamePad Island for co-op runs) won't be added. I included a new blurb explaining the rationale behind it in the original post and 1 vs. Rivals games being a potential category.

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  Wipeoutjack7Wipeoutjack7
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@TehWhack you have to consider though, that this is a SEQUEL to a game that has its own src leaderboard, so you have to consider what the community for the original game wants too, and most runs in the original Wii Party leaderboard are games that are similar to tv games.

 
  GamingLandGamingLand
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I like the idea of the 1v3 minigame category. I did my own run.

Here are the rules I came up with:
-Timing starts when you press "Start" on the first minigame screen
-Timing stops when "Finish!" appears on the last minigame
-You must play all the 1v3 minigames in order
-You must be playing against the cpu's
-All cpu difficulty's are allowed except for beginner
-You must finish first in every minigame
-You can replay minigames to achieve first

Here's the video:

Note that my capture card has a second delay.

I think that the 1v3 minigames could be split into 2 categories. The first one could be where you play against the other cpu's. The second category could be where you play on the 3 player team instead of going against all of the cpu's. I probably did a bad job explaining that, but you get what I mean, right?

Thanks for reading!

 
  TehWhackTehWhack
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Thanks for sharing a run idea, @GamingLand !

1 vs. Rivals has been added as a category with you vs. 3 CPU's. It can be done on any opponent skill level, but you must specify/show what skill level the CPU's are set to. Also, games can be played in any particular order as long as all 14 are done.

Feel free to submit a run!

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  GamingLandGamingLand
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Hey TehWhack! I know that you don't want to add party game categories, but my friends Wipeoutjack7, Alaskaxp2, and I do. We like to speedrun wii party, and we want to see the same kind of speedrun categories on wii party u.

Highway Rollers In 42:52 By GamingLand (Me)

Rules: Win A Game Of Highway Rollers

You Must Finish First
Must Be Played With 4 Players (You And 3 CPU'S)
CPU Difficulty Doesn't Matter, But Specify What Difficulty You Use In The Run

Timing Starts When You Select "Start" After Mii Selection
Timing Ends When "Victory!" Appears On Screen At End Of Game

The Balldozer In 13:56 By GamingLand (Me)

Rules:
Win A Game Of The Balldozer

You Must Finish First
Must Be Played With 4 Players (You And 3 CPU'S)
CPU Difficulty Doesn't Matter, But Specify What Difficulty You Use In The Run

Timing Starts When You Select "Start" After Mii Selection
Timing Ends When "Victory!" Appears On Screen At End Of Game

Little Other Cat. Idea: Battle of the Minigames - Play to 3 In 4:56 By GamingLand

Rules:
Win A First To 3 Game Of Battle of the Minigames

You Must Finish First
You Must Be Playing With 4 Players (You And 3 CPU'S)
CPU Difficulty Doesn't Matter, But Specify What Difficulty You Use In The Run

Timing Starts When You Press "Start" After Selecting "First To 3"
Timing Ends When "Victory!" Appears On Screen Once Game Is Finished

My Friend Wipeoutjack7 will respond to this thread with his Team Building run. As for Alaskaxp2, he said he'd do runs once he found his Wii Party U disc. ?

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  Wipeoutjack7Wipeoutjack7
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Hey! I Have A Category Id Like to be added as well.

Rules:
Win A Game Of Team Building

You Must Finish First
Must Be Played With 4 Players (You And 3 CPU'S)
CPU Difficulty Doesn't Matter, But Specify What Difficulty You Use In The Run

Timing Starts When You Select "Start" After Mii Selection
Timing Ends When "Victory!" Appears On Screen At End Of Game

I’d also like Tabletop Baseball To be added

Rules:
Win A Game Of Tabletop Baseball

You Must Finish First
Must Be Played With 2 Players (You And 1 CPU)
CPU Difficulty Doesn't Matter, But Specify What Difficulty You Use In The Run

Timing Starts When You Select "Start" After Inning Selection
Timing Ends When "Victory!" Appears On Screen At End Of Game
There would be two categories, 3 innings and 6 innings

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  Wipeoutjack7Wipeoutjack7

Thanks for adding them! One thing that would probably keep the leaderboards more competitive is forcing players to compete with 3 cpus during party games.

 
  TehWhackTehWhack

Hey @GamingLand and @Wipeoutjack7 ! Thanks for sharing the run ideas.

Everything you've shown with videos and a bit more have been made into categories, 23 categories to be exact.

TV Party, GamePad Party, and Battle of the Minigames have all been added as header categories with subcategories added for each. GamePad Island, Tabletop Foosball, Animal Matchup, and Puzzle Blockade have been left out as subcategories due to the games being either multiplayer based or set-time games.

Just like with 1 vs. rivals, it is still required to specify the Opponent Skill Level with each submission.

Feel free to submit runs!

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  TehWhackTehWhack

@Wipeoutjack7 , I have considered limiting each TV Party subcategory to 3 opponents.

While the Opponent Skill Level does not change the core mechanics of the game, something like the Number of Opponents changes the game on a fundamental level. With time, if no one else runs different amount of opponents and there are many 3 Opponent runs, then the chance of limiting it to the 3 Opponent game is possible.

 
  GamingLandGamingLand

Category Name: All Party Games

Rules:
Complete all TV Party games (Excluding GamePad Island as that is multiplayer only)

Timing starts when you select "Start" on the first TV Party game
Timing ends when "Victory!" appears at the end of the game on the last TV Party game

-You DON'T have to finish first in every game
-You must play against 3 CPU's in every game
-You're allowed to quit out of a TV Party game when "Victory!" appears on screen

Run:

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  TehWhackTehWhack

@GamingLand I have thought about this before, but the idea behind "All Party Games Aside from the One That Doesn't Fit Into Speedrunning" seemed arbitrary. If others want this specifically, I'd be open to introducing the category.

Just another note; with any run in Wii Party U or any other party genre video game speedrun, beating the CPU is needed for a run to be considered completing the game as fast as possible. In this case, you would have to beat the CPU's in each TV Party game.

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  CmdrCmdr

"with any run in Wii Party U or any other party genre video game speedrun, beating the CPU is needed for a run to be considered completing the game as fast as possible."

I'm going to have to call you out on this one TehWhack. Wii Party's All Party Games category has sub categories for Winning every game, and Finishing every game. It's how All Party Games has been setup for over a year. Both sub categories are massive undertakings to watch runs of, even in finish because sometimes it is way faster to setup up the CPU to win and relying on them to do their part (it almost turns the run to be like a co-op game.) So Gamingland not winning certain games isn't as foreign of a concept as you probably think.

So I agree with Gland on this, I think an All Party Games with sub categories for "Finish" and "Win" would be a great addition to the Wii Party U boards.

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  OddPandemoniumOddPandemonium

How about Individual Levels. There are so many minigames with an In-Game timer that there should be an IL leaderboards for them.

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  KilleDragonKilleDragon

Is true, should be nice ILs for the minigames

 
  K-PatchK-Patch

Count me in as another that would like individual mini games, especially the ones with a timer right on them like swimming and the moon escape.

 
  InceptionSpeedrunsInceptionSpeedruns

I would love il's, i dislike long categories and the minigames are very enjoyable

 
  iPeedMyself_iPeedMyself_

Yeah, ILs are fun and short, and might bring more people who don’t want to do long runs

 
  [user deleted]

Why not All TV Party modes. Highway Rollers, Mii Fashion Plaza, The Balldozer, and Team Building. I would record it, but I don't know how to record Wii U. (Reply if you know how to)

 
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