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Wolfenstein 3D Forum  /  I Think i figure it out about time difference in Leaderboard

RandyOzzYRandyOzzY

Québec

  RandyOzzYRandyOzzY
9 Jan 2020, 07:41

Ill to explain myself best as i can but my english suck. So first ECWolf and DosBox count time same way : Addition of IGT of 1-1 to 1-8* Game dosent count last Floor reason why you didnt have the split time for this floor at the end. With GZDoom fact that we dont see all floor split time i guest game count IGT from the begining to the end (exactly like RTA) but not stop exactly like player in their livesplit finish . So that basciaaly reason why difference of gap between IGT and RTA regard of port you play. So now i Think that both game have to be count and rank with In Game Time but in 2 distinct categorie to be fair or maybe some other solution that will make this game runable and rankable for everybody. Mostly like Difficulty should not be all in the same run category. And still cannot understand this Deluxe_ guy who submit a 3m59 IGT when in reality when you watch the run he get 4m46sec. and run as been verified... This leaderboard is so confusing i started to run it but i really dont know how to play it without basic rule like when time start and FINISH its RTA ranking and i think there no runs in this leaderboard that start and finish at the same place. Well Please answer as much as you are, agree disagree suggestion to make thing change to better for speedrunning community

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RandyOzzYRandyOzzY

Québec

  RandyOzzYRandyOzzY
6 Feb 2020, 03:42

First of all Tiref i want to say that you totally deserve the episode 2 record and i told it to the moderator. I test three main source as ECWolf, DosBox, GZdoom. I didnt have video like you made but i'm sure that the doom way for door passing in GZDoom make save time. For me its always the same count. With ECWolf i take the IGT + time on 9th floor = RTA - 9sec (scorescreen) ALWAYS but for GZdoom i can't tell why because its not constant ( not by a lot of seconde but its not). For guard dealing in some skip maybe in GZDoom its harder in 5th floor but some other time its harder for ECWolf ex ( spear of destiny floor 12). To be honest i really think the best way to rank it its to do 2 leaderboard 1 for GZDoom and the other for ECWolf/DOSBox. Second way its to take the IGT and add the last floor time for ECWolf and DOSBOX. Fact that we can die dosent make sense too, maybe good for a full run that you can save some RTA time but not for episode run. I ask to moderator to get some discussion about it lets see if some some progress wil be make. Sorry for my bad english

Randy

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Alex0023Alex0023

Ontario, Canada

  Alex0023Alex0023
6 Feb 2020, 17:16

Gzdoom might be better off on its own leaderboard since you cant do the door skips and that costs a lot of time. ECWolf and DOSBox are similar enough to be on the same leaderboard.

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RandyOzzYRandyOzzY

Québec

  RandyOzzYRandyOzzY
17 Feb 2020, 19:00 (edited: 17 Feb 2020, 19:14)

I'm agree but we need to add secret level time(when someone use it) and boss level time (floor 9) without load. And maybe not allow to die on a single Episode run. Exemple ObsidianCanargeX12 take more time to kill the boss at the end and and he died 1 once that make his time a lot worst than what is submitted in leaderboard IGT. WE NEED A FAIR LEADERBOARD . We got some upgrade but, Mods work is not over we still need you 🙂

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