Setting the Rules for the categories.
7 years ago
United States

I've been routing True End Route currently since Good End doesn't have the grind part. Also trying to establish the rules clearly.

New Game Category will have a different set of rules from what i experienced but i want to see your opinion on what rules to be added.

New Game+ Rules are will have the standard No S + Q since your already over leveled. But before that i wanna hear your opinions still.

Bad End = is pretty much the Any% Normal End = is the same as bad scenes but has CG and cutscenes thats all True End = The advance version of Any% Kappa

Limburg, Netherlands

wil it be the same as currently? like no paid DLC and paid DLCs? also im kinda excited to see the true end route since it wasnt easy to run through the game casually so im wondering what strats can be used. im guessing S+Q wouldnt mean that much since if you're going for a good run you're not gonna take safety saves. then again some bosses are just random in my experience and you can win with the current party IF the boss doesn't spam her EX move over and over.

New Zealand

New Game runs don't allow DLC at all (well except for the Trillion costumes) because there are 2 free DLCs (Histoire item sets) that completely break the run's balance. Items are actually really important in NG because the good heals are super scarce.

There is a New Game with all DLC allowed category but that's mainly just for fun as there is little challenge once you have DLC weapons/armor that increases your stats by like 5x.

The main random element for bosses in the NG run is their move selection. You can use strategies to (mostly) control who they will hit, but if they pull out their OP multitarget moves too often then things can go bad fast. Every boss has a relatively high win rate except a few early on in the Zero Dimension though.

The current fullgame New Game records actually do use S+Q strats but it is likely that they will have to be skipped in the future once the categories actually get somewhat close to optimization.

Georgia, USA

For NG+ there is no need for safety saves at all because the bosses become way to easy at around level the high 50s or so and up. Except the cpus during true end I don't actually remember what level they become easy but I would guess in the 70s.

and as of now NG+ with paid and without paid dlc will be providing super close to the same times once you get to the level 300+ range and your combos become super op but under level 100 with dlc should be minutes faster iirc.

Limburg, Netherlands

so wil histy's DLC be banned or not for NG. thinking of getting good times for the 3 NG+ categories and then trying my hand at NG

New Zealand

Histy's DLC is banned for NG and will stay banned.