EnglandI was interested in looking up what the PAL any% WRs are so looked it up on the site and there are a few issues with the submitted runs.
Filtering it by PAL N64, there are only two runs with videos - The first video ("wr") doesn't work, and the second video is actually the Japanese version. I hunted around on the runner's youtube for the "wr" run - I managed to find it but it's actually the Gamecube version. (note- PAL GC is actually the same as NTSC GC).
There's 2 runs with videos for Wii VC PAL and Wii U VC PAL (both are "true" pal versions unlike the Gamecube) - These are both fine.
I know no one actually cares about PAL and the runs themselves are like #700 on the main leaderboard, and that's why the errors likely went through - but imo it looks sloppy to have this kind of error for a version wr. I think that there should be more care taken in verifying runs in contention for a version wr. (Especially when someone submits a 21min N64 PAL run) - For both these errors to go through the verifier must not have even opened the video.
eta: here is the "true pal" wr according to the leaderboard (the one that's actually the gc version)
Earlier I was testing duping and found this. I duped 3 Vans and then passed it by getting busted.
note I used a NG+ set up to auto fail it
Current idea to implement this into the route is: rampage start ciprani's chauffeur finish it within 2minutes take 3 vans wait for rampage timer to run out take 3 vans again-get wasted/busted (ideally busted) pray for a police car use police car+shotgun rounds for The Pick-Up
Turns out Jeremie did a similar thing with Paparazzi Purge a while ago
Now failure conditions don't always pass a duped mission. It doesn't work with E2G for example (it crashes if the timer hasn't started and simply fails the mission if it has).
This thread is here so people can post the results of their tests so no-one repeats anything
EDIT: It seems we have figured this out: The current theory for how it works is this: failing the mission unloads one instance of the mission, and the removal of the things in that instance of the mission passes the other instance of the mission. For example failing 3 vans removes the vans from one of the missions, and because the game detects that the vans have been 'removed' the second instance of the mission passes it for you. That's why it works with the missions it has worked for.
Therefore it works in missions where the main goal, ie the thing that ends the mission, is to destroy something/kill someone. It can't be kill someone, then do something else eg Don't Spank Ma Bitch. It doesn't work with Bait for example because it's really picky about how the Colombians die.
Missions we know it works for:
Pump Action Pimp Farewell Chunky Lee Chong Taking Out The Laundry Triads and Tribulations Sayanrora Salvatore (after he's left the club) Under Surveillance Paparazzi Purge (You don't need to kill yourself/get busted to fail this mission) Gone Fishing (you need to get in a Police Boat first, but it can be any Police Boat. Approaching the intended Police Boat crashes the game) Evidence Dash - (this works because destroying the Bobcat actually passes the mission, you can do this with a tank for example. Problem is Bobcat is explosion proof in normal gameplay) Two Faced Tanner (you need to go to Casino first so he comes out)
So I was trying to replicate Bastant's latest glitch (http://www.speedrunrecords.com/Grand_Theft_Auto_Vice_City/thread/ruqeb) using the party and not BaB.
You take the mission after replay tommy tries to buy the property. This delays the purchase of the property until you've finished the mission, and it teleports you there. It's similar to the clothes change glitch
This particular warp is useless because of no CC, but I feel like this must have potential somewhere else
http://www.twitch.tv/mamamia1001/c/4483201
So this happened. Seems to have been caused by replaying the loading animation for the transition between the islands
Is anyone else interested in a category where you replace SSA and CP with Malibu and Film Studios?
Earlier I played around and made a rough mission order for it, if anyone wants to help route/test it feel free:
pre-shakedown - same as any% but do cone crazy one more time shakedown bar brawl pp malibu 1 taxi 1 by malibu 2 film 1-4 police heli to copland take police heli to malibu, do malibu 3-4 pw 1-2 taxi 2 taxi 3 (park the zebra cab like you park the ice cream truck in any%?) tahmmy tahmmy....
I'm not sure where phone calls would fit it in, that's one thing I need to test
http://www.twitch.tv/mamamia1001/c/4392096
I think this might be a little faster than the current strats, but I haven't timed it properly.
Getting the bike there is really easy, you drive along the wall and just jump off, no need to break.
ETA: For anyone who doesn't wanna watch this on a potato - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60029413/gta-vc%202014-06-03%2023-17-19-362.avi
