I'd like to propose: banning the vault save. It's had a good run. Hindsight 20/20.

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For the "We wait a long time in elevators, why not skip those?" argument.

Differences between the Vault and Elevators:

1. The Vault is at the beginning of the game. Nothing you did previously in the run (because there is nothing) is going to affect how you will do, especially if you load a save where you’ve been standing still. There is no skill in waiting that time, everyone escapes the vault at 57 seconds.

2. There are ~57 seconds of wait-time in the vault instead of the ~12 in elevators. Elevators are between levels and are a nice breathing point from goin’ fast. Some may argue that the relaxation vault is a breathing point for between runs, but if you’ve been resetting between ch00-04 repetitively, it’s more of an annoyance. If the save was allowed, you could still wait in the vault if you’d like for a breather.

3. Skipping elevators with saves will probably never be a part of the speedrun because strategies have been created to skip elevators IN THE SPEEDRUN. Jesus.

Most people seem to be on-board with the save in both this thread and the sourceruns thread, but I wanted to debunk the elevator argument. Also I just woke up and I'm bored.

¤chants¤ speed up the vault... SPEED UP THE VAULT.

I'm in favor of the save too. Speeding up the vault would be single-segment, and livesplit times it accurately.

Y'all if I could just skip the vault then I'm down for whatever.

kappa?