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thread: The Site
GermanyZanon5 months ago

Honestly, please give us a way to choose what we want to see when we log into the site. Allow us to customize the "Latest Runs" tab to not show us games we are not following or moderating for.

It's getting increasingly annoying not being able to see the stuff I personally care about, without having to scroll down past several meme or edgelord games or Romhacks of popular games I have no interest in - I don't care about Shotgun Mario 64, I don't care about Asset Flip Scary Game or "1 second Run Mobile Game #1692".

I suggest the website allows users to customize based on certain tags / categories, which leaderboard maintainers would have to realistically and faithfully add to their games ("official game", "meme", "romhack", "Mod", "Fangame", "Category Extension", "Mobile game", "Gacha", etc), and then give the users the options to enable or disable based on those and more, such as:

  1. Platforms of interest;

  2. Official games;

  3. Romhacks or Mods;

  4. Fangames (actual games that aren't meme modifications or just romhacks. A "fan-game" has to improve on the base game it's based on, ie quality of life features being added for example);

  5. Games the user moderates for (which would ignore anything above if any of the games fall in any of those categories);

  6. Games the user is following;

It's become quite frustrating having random mobile games or lazy stuff like a spam of 1 second runs cluttering the landing page. It's really not great to see and it makes it a problem trying to actually get what we want to get.

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GermanyZanon9 months ago

I just wish we could opt-out of the "latest runs" tab having games we are not subscribed to.

Like, I appreciate the intent to showcase games to more people to garner more interest. But please:

  1. Let us opt-out of this. There may be many runners who have their specific games they want to run and / or follow and are not really interested in other games;

  2. Give us the options to choose platforms or genres or whatever. I am not a mobile games player or runner, I don't care about Mobile games, yet every time something shows up it has to be a mobile game.

  3. It pushes down and away the games we may be verifiers/moderators for. Yes, we get the notifications too if something happens, but I think it is much more important to be greeted with the visual of all the recent things that were verified or accepted recently for that game.

For me personally, It is annoying, it is not interesting in any way to see these recommendations. Just being able to not see them would already be good. I legitimately only care about the games I run and moderate for, as well as a handful of games I followed for the express purpose of me liking the games in question.

EDIT: otherwise, I think the new layout looks great. It seems much more responsive, it's much more intuitive and it has some really neat QoL additions that were sorely needed. Also special mention of the improved moderation tools and leaderboards tools. It makes managing things much more efficient.

It is visually pleasing (without the ads) and I hope it stays as it is.

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thread: The Site
GermanyZanon1 year ago

The one thing I could see "helping" (not fully solving the issue, as it's way more complicated than just suggesting "just do this thing 4Head" solutions) is some sort of 2FA to post in Forums.

Say that you need to verify your account via email to be allowed to post in the forums first. Have an authy-esque of sorts for that. And for "new" user (say, 30-60 days old accounts), make it so they have to verify their email to be allowed to write messages and they have to use a 2FA code every time they want to send a forum message. My making them waste their time - even if it's 1 minute per "attempt", most trolls just give up when it becomes too much effort, as stuff like this is appealing to them on the basis that it's fast and easy to do and repeat ad-nauseum. They will eventually run out of emails to use, or at least run out of patience to create emails they have to check on everytime they want to post something. Especially given they're probably unsupervised little billies using their parents' computer.

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thread: The Site
GermanyZanon1 year ago

OP Post was edited, so what I said has no context anymore :P

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thread: The Site
GermanyZanon1 year ago

Surprised no one actually said that a Community manager has no reason to give website related information to a random user pinging them on discord.

Or, you know, that you shouldn't be harassing a Community Manager when you can easily get a feedback form / contact form instead?

thread: The Site
GermanyZanon1 year ago

Let's necro this a little bit, in addition to also using the feedback form:

SRC, please Allow us to choose what we see in our "login page" / "Landing page", where "Latest Runs" is. People who run/moderate several games have to pay attention to certain games ILs, Full Runs, etc. Even more so given notifications aren't working.

Can you PLEASE allow us to just see the games we are following, or allow us to set a "homepage" with the games we want to see / the games we follow by default? I don't care about seeing 1s runs from "GenericAnimeWaifuPorn" or "MemeGame2022" or "Twenty Tuesdays at Todd's". There's a reason why I am not following those games, and I shouldn't be made forced to scroll down an equivalent of three times the site's length to see the games I am following/running/moderating.

Twice already I have had occasions where "latest runs" doesn't even show me the games I am following/running, even though I know some runs/ILs were verified. And it's kinda horrible really.

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thread: The Site
GermanyZanon1 year ago

Could be anything.

  • Could be the atrocious ads placement.
  • Could be the broken code due to a poorly managed update.
  • Could be an increase in acceptance of questionable mobile "games" and other "videogames" (putting it loosely because a lot of them seem to be poor-effort stuff or outright edgy asset-flips) and an insane amount of submissions for runs of said games;
  • Could be one of SRC's servers being fried up;
  • Could be SRC's ISP providing some good ol' comcast quality service;
  • Them experiments with main-page and landing page ("Latest Runs" for example) probably broke something;

Now, some of those points are snarky, intentionally, but they highlight potential reasons. It is very much possible the people behind the website maintenance are already aware of this and doing their best to figure it out too.

I got a notification 2 days ago for a run that was verified over 10 days ago. FUN TIMES.

thread: The Site
GermanyZanon1 year ago

Not necessarily a bump but a small update:

Seeing that the user who replied above is experiencing the same issue, I talked to a few acquaintances and it seems this issue is a weird thing where some people are getting notifications and others aren't - neither of us is a web developer, so we can't really theorise as to why this is happening - and no, it isn't a "your internet must not be doing well" issue, as all of us live in different places (and different countries), so that point is largely irrelevant.

I still am not getting any notifications myself, and again, the last one I got was on Nov 16th. Meanwhile, more runs have been submitted and verified in categories that either I help moderating/verifying - meaning that other people are getting workload that I could have shared and/or have dealt with earlier without others being inconvenienced - or in games that I run, which means I can't watch either ILs or full runs because they just go undetected.

It is legitimately frustrating, and the workaround of having to open the "moderation hub" - and pray for the website to actually load, which can either be within 5 seconds or it can take up to 40 - just to check if something is pending because something as simple as a notifications feature isn't working is not going to cut it. It's not efficient and it isn't a solution to a problem that, for all intents and purposes, started happening out of nowhere.

Is there anyone from SRC team that actually reads these forums? If so, are the devs aware of this being an issue or not?

EDIT: Suddenly got flooded with notifications and emails of my ILs being verified (as if they were verified today, which they weren't), but still nothing in regards to new runs/my runs being surpassed/runs waiting in queue.

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thread: Speedrunning
GermanyZanon1 year ago

Me, specifically, I've always been into completing games as quickly as I can - and back then I didn't know of any tools or even communities or "celebrities", so i just had some really poorly-put-together .txt files and I would use my old phone as a timer/stop watch (and in the event they didn't have any, I'd just write down the starting and ending times from my phone's screen, if the games didn't have IGT).

I don't think it's possible to quantify this in any way, due to how each country/continent has different biases towards certain games, systems, etc. Not everyone will have started speedrunning due to a YouTube Speedrunning Historian or due to a massive WR holder that may have been exposed as a cheater nowadays (you know who they are). But in terms of whether anyone influenced me to become an actual speedrunner for "leaderboards" and stuff, nah. Just the fact I found people who also liked the challenge, and then eventually I began looking into speedrunning communities for games I played - pokemon and sonic being the major ones - was probably enough for me to keep it going.

But in a way that's what makes this a great hobby: everyone will have a different story as to how they started or whether they got influenced by someone - especially the older folks who were speedrunning before there were youtube channels dedicated to Speedrun analysis or history tracking :)

thread: The Site
GermanyZanon1 year ago

Is there a problem going on with notifications recently or something?

Since late Friday, a lot of things happened in some games I moderate/verify - ILs being submitted, verified, etc - and I got exactly 0 notifications for any of them, including even ILs I submitted and were verified and I was not notified about that happening.

And no, I did not change anything in regards to notifications settings - they've been the same for quite some time now, and they were just as I remember them being set as, be it general settings or game/leaderboard specific settings.

I haven't seen a thread here so I am wondering if this is some sort of account related glitch of if no one bothered reporting this? (maybe no one else noticed).

EDIT: In fact, the last notification I have is dated from Nov. 16.

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thread: Dragon Force
GermanyZanon1 year ago

An update.

  • I deleted the old posts I had here: Seeing as they served no purpose whatsoever other than vague reminders for myself, I decided it was pointless to have them here.

  • Tidied up categories; As mentioned. Seeing SRC has gone under severe changes in the past 3 years (since the boards were created), so I finally had the time and the health to make some changes. No need to have 4 categories for region and emulator/console. That's a block that will be tackled if there ever are any "issues" in regards to that. I also introduced a new category that isn't "Beat the Game" or "Any%", which was mentioned on discord by someone (I can't remember sorry ;.; ) and I thought it would be a really nice idea: "Conquer Legendra." This makes for a faster category without most of the time wasting the Shrines offer.

  • Changed the rules; they remain vaguely the same, but I think it is best to allow exploits (some were allowed, others were not) and any potential glitches that aren't debug mode.

  • Added a new moderator: ARRPEEGEE or RPG. He knows the game, despite not running it.

I want to future proof these leaderboards. Finding the hardware in working order + the game for a reasonable price is becoming more and more difficult, meaning most players might be opting to emulate instead of spending 200+ currency for Game+Console+Controller, not accounting for a suitable capture card, if they do not own the console and the game already. Furthermore, there will always also the be "NTSC vs PAL" issue, where running NTSC (JP or US) will always be more advantageous than PAL.

Emulation will always be welcomed as it is a very important step on games preservation and speedrunning continuity, and fortunately, there are decent alternatives nowadays.

Any questions you might have, feel free to join the Discord (Link above) and ask there. It is mainly a "Game Community" discord, but it does have a small speedrunning section. Everyone is welcomed. See you there o7

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thread: The Site
GermanyZanon1 year ago

I see. It's still a bit annoying to see them on top.

Thanks for the link to that post though!

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thread: The Site
GermanyZanon1 year ago

I don't know when this started happening, but the "Latest Runs" page instead of having only the latest runs from the games / series I follow, is now actually showing me stuff that I never even browsed to begin with.

An example of that is here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/824334996579811438/1026104978072408094/unknown.png

Although on occasion it's several games - max I've seen was 3 different games. I appreciate that this "helps" some games get a bit more attention and stuff, but maybe make this an "opt-in" feature perhaps? Can we just go back to only seeing what we want to see, please? I only am interested in seeing the games I run or have moderator duties for, not being shown some random Flash/miniclip games or anime/hentai stuff.

GermanyZanon1 year ago

Having tried the mod myself, I'll be completely honest: it's fun content, it's unique, but it's just Knuckles with a quick-drop animation and slightly higher jump. Although it is not a sprite-swap, it's a full-on character.

There's huge potential for accidental glitches - you can glitch through non-solid terrain (like bridges) using the "quick drop" move - but in general it doesn't seem to offer much more in terms of diversity vs what Knuckles offers.

thread: The Site
GermanyZanon2 years ago

"We are listening to the community" is the default go-to message every time a company screws up, and more often than not that's never actually true. So I'm sorry if you take my scepticism the wrong way when I say I don't believe you. It's surprising it actually got someone from ELO to comment on this, but i assume it's because it's actually causing you damage - it doesn't invalidate the other hundreds of times when someone should've come forward and addressed several other issues (Bans related, sketchy updates, etc), when all that happened was complete radio silence.

I think the community was clear enough about this: you don't have to fix the comments feature. All you need is to remove it entirely. It adds nothing to the content this website is supposed to provide, as well as it does nothing extra that the Forums or YouTube comments don't do (something that you should be happy you aren't responsible for).

The one other thing that I would like ELO to actually understand is that they need to be transparent and actually communicate with the community in advance before pushing these "updates", ELO needs to talk to us, be honest about stuff like like banning/unbanning users and not actually adding the reasons that explain their decisions or making them available to protect the communities.

In the past 6 months, all that this website managed to do is get the community to be 100% distrustful of its management - and that is not the kind of relationship you want from the people that make your website as popular and traffic-heavy as it is.

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thread: The Site
GermanyZanon2 years ago

I will add to your first point that it is also possible to comment on obsolete runs that aren't part of the leaderboards (by default), which also makes the job much harder for everyone who wants to keep tidy boards, let alone to prevent abuse and harassment. The fact mods don't get notified of notifications is both good and bad - less spam but also less of a chance for them to know what's going on. It's a completely unnecessary feature that ultimately only accomplishes one thing: making moderators do things that they shouldn't be doing in the first place. Leave the comments for YouTube and for each games' forums.

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thread: The Site
GermanyZanon2 years ago

ELO wanted engagement. ELO got engagement.

Would be nice if these features were actually thoroughly planned, but nah, metrics are more important than everything else. I feel bad for the mods for the most popular games and even the series mods who will have to deal with this BS until ELO/SRC actually do something instead of the usual silent treatment.

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thread: The Site
GermanyZanon2 years ago

@1 Just want to let you know that Bigotry in general (being either a racist, transphobe, homophobe, xenophobe, sexist, ableist... one or more of these) isn't an opinion, but yes hate-speech and it's considered a crime in many places. If someone's banned for either of those things, especially in a place where people from minority groups exist, it's very well deserved. Arguing against the people that take action against bigotry is not really the hill you want to die on.

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thread: The Site
GermanyZanon2 years ago

The fact you posted here already is a good step forward, and I commend that.

I cannot say whether you are being genuine or not - I couldn't before, I can't now - but I am all up for redemptions. However... ... the fact still remains that plagiarism is a very serious thing, and it's nigh impossible to come back from it, because of the consequences it causes, the main one of them being this overwhelming doubt on whether the content is really from the person or not. While I do agree that there are measures to actively show that someone is indeed "doing the thing", the results of previous actions will still be tagging along with your name wherever a submission happens, so it could naturally be quite difficult for some people/communities to accept your runs in the future.

One thing that needs to be pointed out is that no one can forbid you from speedrunning. Being banned or restricted from SRC does not mean you are not allowed to play any game as fast as you can, and this should be obvious. You can still do what you like, but please, do understand that some communities may not feel comfortable welcoming you into their leaderboards - and it is their right to protect the integrity of their community's interests. And in the event that some communities are not eager to give you a second chance, take that as a learning opportunity, which hopefully means that you will never pass other people's content as your own ever again. (I'd highly encourage you to come clean on whether you did it elsewhere/in other occasions and if you did, what did you do and how. Because it will be easier on you that you come clean, than if someone manages to stumble upon yet another case).

I should make it clear: I have nothing against you, as a person, as a runner. I don't know you personally, I just know of your runs. I know you're a good runner and that you didn't have the need to resort to what you did - I say this as someone who studied a couple of your Knuckles Runs before this happened. I do have an issue with rule breaking and stealing though, which is why one of my major issues wasn't with you but with how the videos were presented and the content in them - namely name-dropping three people, one unrelated to the subject and two who were just doing their jobs as moderators of a community. I appreciate that you finally apologise to two of them, only one of them left, and, of course, the runner whose runs were misappropriated - they were kept nameless in public, so I'd probably encourage you to DM them and apologise, should that still be an option. My other main issue is SRC - and it is a global issue with everyone in the know - and the lack of transparency. I think that even you would agree that someone who breaks the rules deserves some punishment, and a 4 month suspension from submissions isn't it, for me personally.

Regardless of that, I do seriously hope you are eager to learn from this, to develop yourself, to improve on everything and to think about all of this: from the actions that led to this, the mentions of people in ways that made them seem like they either had an issue with you or that they're just bad people in general, to everything the community has discussed up until this point. I highly encourage you to read this entire thread and to skip the memes; even if you feel it's "unfair" or that it's "too harsh", that's how reality is, but it is also how we move forward and become better as people. Facing reality and learning how to take a punch or two are crucial steps that we all need to take and I sincerely want to think and hope that this was a one off situation that "dumb teenager Jay" did without thinking (we all do dumb shit as teenagers). If you were 16 back in 2015, that means you're still very, very young (by comparison anyway), which means you still have time to mature and to learn from this.

If you feel anything I said was unnecessarily rude, let me know. In the event something was out of place or needlessly harsh on you as a person, I apologise and I will reword it should that be the case. I don't particularly think I was mean or unfair, but I can only see things from my perspective, not others until I am made aware of said perspectives.

Once again, thank you for posting here - huge step forward and let's hope no more steps back.

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thread: The Site
GermanyZanon2 years ago

Not uploading unlisted videos with "I want to tell you how much I apologise" (whilst never actually saying what he's apologising for, or even being able to utter the words "I'm sorry for doing x".) would be a good step.

The anxiety I can kind of understand, but as someone with terrible anxiety issues, I cannot stand it being used as an excuse to not accepting or facing criticism. It may suck having to read a lot of stuff dissecting every word you said and every action you made, but you gotta own it, friend.

The "path to redemption" he so wants to have a chance of getting requires him to actually be able to accept criticism and stop making excuses. And it's not like people here are telling him he needs to disappear forever or anything - people are merely pointing out the facts that he knew what he was doing, that he knew what he did was wrong that that he only started caring(tm) after he was caught. Sure there are a few posts that could do with some editing or outright removing (the meme ones especially), but those are easily avoidable too. You cannot grow and develop yourself if you refuse to be accountable for your actions. And running away from accountability won't teach you anything, until eventually you make the same bad decisions sometime down the line.

This last line is dedicated to SRC and their mod team so that the underlying subject at hand isn't swept under the rug, and I am outright calling you out on this: Why did you unban someone with 4 proven occasions of stealing someone else's runs? Why did you do so without letting the affected communities know of this? Why are you still allowing said person to mod boards for other games knowing this? Why don't you, SRC, communicate with us? Why don't you let us know who was banned or unbanned and why? The precedent you're setting here is that anyone can get out of jail free if they make puppy eyes and promise to never do [thing] again. The result of that will probably be communities moving away from your website and take their leaderboards elsewhere. And considering the past few months haven't been the best for your website either, those events haven't been as close to happening as they are now... Would you actually release a statement about this or are you just going to hide in the shadows and hope this fizzles out?

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