So I've read all current posts, splitting the leaderboard could be a possible option if more console run are done in the future, but for now leave thing as they are I agree it's probably better. A second possible thing I was considering is to put the option to hide emulator or console runs from the main leaderboard more as a visual thing, but I think this could potentially leads to more confusion. Eventually it should be usefull a real research on this matter to see about differences in loading times, but I currently don't have the time to do it, if someone else could research the matter a bit it would be really appreciated. About current emulators rules, again I'm not completely expert in the matter, I've always used epsxe personally and it always seemed similar to console, but again didn't time it. Considering that there are some runs not done on epsxe right now, I would leave the rules as they are, only adding that the preferred emulators going forward are Mednafen end epsxe, as they are also the most used for other psx games and seems the more reliable. For PS2 fast load, again until we can't really see if there is a big difference, I'm not sure how it would impact the leaderboard.

So, tl;dr version, as of now substantial changes will not be made, maybe only the hide emulator/console runs, but I'm not sure it would be a good idea and I would personally avoid it. As of specific emulators rules, I would prefer to not enforce specific emulators as of now and only specify in the current rules that EPSXE and mednafen are the preferred ones. Eventually this discussion could be redone once more information about loading times are discovered and/or more console runs are on the leaderboard.

Hello everyone, I'm making this post to discuss a potential big change to the leaderboard. Substantially, there is a possible difference in loading time between real consoles and emulators. Considering that all the runs currently submitted to this leaderboard are done in emulators, this was a thing that I've considered in the past, but considering the number of runs there were I've never made anything much. Now that this game is getting some more run and potential new players, there is a risk that runs done on console would always be slower in RTA and this wouldn't be fair to console players. For this reason, my proposal is to divide all the full-game categories between console run and emulator runs for a fair competion (in a way similar to how the Super Mario 64 leaderboard did it, to make an example). These rules changes would not affect any current run in the leaderboard and would only separate future console runs, avoiding the retiming of each emulator run and the loading times. Nothing would change for the current level leaderboard as in game time is used. Considering this would still be a big change, if someone would like to say its opinion or what other changes could be done, this thread was made for this discussion. Unless nothing else emerges from this thread, I would add this changes the next week or the one after that, depending when I will have some times to do it. Newly submitted run until that point will still go on the leaderboard, I will eventually relocate them to the new appropriated category when the changes go live.

Hi, yes it's possible, but the rules would still requires to be in a new save for each floor, mainly because when i made the rule, if I remember correctly (my last run was 4 years ago in this category), when you complete a challenge in a floor already beaten you are not sent to the select menu, but another menu, or if you do a mission in the third floor you are sent to the final movie. For this reasons, it would be a bit hard in a real console condition to have a singular save to each floor. Still it's an interesting idea, I will add it with the current rules in mindset (maybe worded better lol)

Yeah I would like an help, I never expected this game would get so many runs honestly, expecially when I made the leaderboard, thanks a lot!

Yes, I'm a bit busy in this period but sometimes you can find me, I don't have any new message however

Milliseconds now are added in the timer. Originally I considered the timer mainly for the full game leaderboard, but considering the numerous IL runs, it is a better option. Runs will be updated with correct times

Hello, can someone set https://www.speedrun.com/Hellshots_Golf as a mod based on Doom 2? Thanks in advance.