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BelgiumTike21 days ago

Since i was added as a moderator i have intended to make various changes to update the leaderboard including the 100% category but i havent gotten around to it yet because i've been busy irl. i will start working on it soon though.

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BelgiumTike21 days ago

I have created a Discord server for the community to use.

Its pretty empty atm since there's very few people speedrunning this game but it should make communication easier.

Here's the link: https://discord.gg/Nt5bfK8Dmp

I have also added the link to the resources tab on this site.

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BelgiumTike3 months ago

Hey, welcome to the swtor speedrunning community! i'll happily answer any questions you have.

i already addressed some of your questions on our Discord server but i will repeat everything here in case someone else is wondering the same things.

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  • about combat styles:

The introduction of combat styles in 7.0 has indeed reduced the amount of gameplay diversity in most categories because stealth is crucial in most runs.

I understand that this is not always as fun but i think runners should be able to use stealth to optimise a run as much as they can.

It would be possible to add subcategories for stealth and non-stealth combat styles however the Origin Story leaderboard (which is most affected by the introduction of combat styles) already has 4 different subcategories so adding any more to it would make the leaderboard even more complicated and split up than it already is.

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  • about No LG runs:

If you have a maxed out legacy you can indeed not run No LG on that legacy.

Since legacy is server-specific you can go onto a server where you dont have any legacy unlocks and do No LG runs there.

As long as you dont collect any datacrons or buy any legacy-wide upgrades on that server you can run No LG as much as you like.

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  • about weeklies/heroics:

I have looked into adding categories like this in the past however the biggest problems i see with it is that it would be hard to set up rules because unlike most other categories this one would not involve making a new character and doesnt take place in a personal instance which means there could be a lot of factors that influence the run. the fact that weekly and heroic misions can only be done once per charcter per day would also make it hard to pratice these runs.

The main reason however as to why i would not add it as a category right now is because SWTOR already has a lot of categories with very limited activity and so im not eager to add any more unless there is an influx of new players interested in running them.

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I hope this gave you some of the info you were looking for.

If you have any more questions feel free to let me know here or in the #swtor channel on the discord.

BelgiumTike1 year ago

Patch 7.2.1 has added credit costs to Quick Travel, Priority Transport and Stronghold travel. Since the credits required are quite high even on starting planets this means that all levelling runs will be affected pretty hard and i suspect most current wr's are unbeatable. Because of this i have added the subcategories 'post-7.2.1' and pre-7.2.1' to the 'level 1-10', 'Additional Levelling' and 'Origin Story' categories.

If you have any questions or feedback, feel free to let me know in the replies or join us in the #swtor channel on the discord.

BelgiumTike2 years ago

btw you are allowed to accept conquest missions.

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BelgiumTike2 years ago

sorry for the long wait but i have finally gotten around to fully updating the leaderboard based on all the 7.0 changes.

full list of changes:

  • removed lvl 1-75 category and added lvl1-80 category to additional levelling.
  • renamed Class Missions to Origin Story and added a note in the rules to clarify the category applies to Origin Story and not combat styles.
  • archived all prologue Inquisitor, Agent , Consular and Smuggler runs.
  • added 7.0 & 6.0 subcategories for Story & Veteran Operations.
  • added 7.0 & 6.0 variables for Eternal Championship.
  • added 7.0, 6.0 & pre-6.0 subcategories to all flashpoint & uprising categories.
  • moved all archived IL runs into the new subcategories and removed the archived IL category.
  • removed the conquest rule from Additional Levelling.
  • added a new rule to additional levelling & origin story that allows runners to take brief breaks during long runs.

I have also updated the splits in the resources tab to include the new flashpoints.

If you have any questions or if i forgot to update something feel free to let me know in the replies or join us in the #swtor channel on the discord.

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BelgiumTike2 years ago

I have added this rule to the Additional Levelling and Origin Story categories.

Feel free to still give your thoughts and/or feedback.

BelgiumTike2 years ago

Conquest Rules have been removed from all remaining categories since conquest objectives no longer grant experience or credits since 7.0.

BelgiumTike2 years ago

since some people on discord showed interest in running some of the longer categories like lvl 1-80 i thought it might be a good idea to add a system that allows runners to take short breaks during long runs. this is the system i came up with with:

  • for runs longer than 3 hours runners are allowed to stop the timer for up to 15 minutes to take a break.
  • you are not allowed to take any action that affects your run while the timer is paused.
  • you are not allowed to take more than 1 break for every 2 hours in the run. (ex. if the run is 6 hours you are allowed to take max. 3 breaks.)
  • you are allowed to take the breaks at any time you want, there does not have to be 2 hours in between the breaks.
  • if you do not know how long the run will be i recommend taking the breaks after the hour thresholds have been reached.
  • runs that are close to the 2 hour marks will be rounded up or down by max 15 minutes in relation to the amount of breaks. (ex. 5h45m-6h15m runs will count as 6 hour runs.)
  • breaks that are more than a few seconds longer than 15 minutes will result in the run being rejected.

please let me know your thoughts and/or feedback.

BelgiumTike2 years ago

yes, thats fine

BelgiumTike2 years ago

i have made a graphic for each category so its easier to see which guild perks are banned:

Flashpoints: imgur.com/a/qqBrCfW GP Restricted Operations: imgur.com/a/QRdVYVE Uprisings & Eternal Championship: imgur.com/a/2dtluxA

the links have also been added to the top of the lists above.

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BelgiumTike2 years ago

another update to the conquest ruling:

  • the conquest ruling has been removed completely from the Class Missions category.

the conquest ruling in the Additional Levelling category remains unchanged for now however if the category gets some more runs in the future it might be reviewed again then.

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BelgiumTike2 years ago

good point, i didn't think of that.

we could add a category with 1 or 2 planets to start with and see if there is any interest in them. we would need to think some more about how the rules would look exactly like: -what would the starting point of the run be? -are there any mechanics that shouldn't be allowed? (quick travel, Razor's Kickstart tactical, etc)

if you want to try a run already as proof of concept that would also help a lot.

BelgiumTike2 years ago

datacrons unlock server-wide and there is no way to reset them which means you would only get 5 tries per account at doing a run like this, and thats assuming you dont already have any so this seems like it wouldn't work as a speedrun at all.

BelgiumTike2 years ago

im not opposed to removing Uprisings since there seems to be little interest in them however the level leaderboard isn't always a good place for a new category. there is also no guarantee that a new category would be any more popular, many people have come up with ideas for new categories in the past that barely anyone ended up running. as for the idea of doing multiple flashpoints in a row, i like the idea but im not sure how we would handle the downtime between flashpoints and loading screens, they could make a big difference in time and removing them would have to be done manually and would be a lot of work. feel free to think out this idea further tho if you want and if you have any more substantial ideas or other suggestions they are always welcome.

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BelgiumTike3 years ago

i appreciate the effort you put into this idea but i still think its not ideal, the leaderboard already has a lot of categories and this one feels like it is a bit too unspecific along with the problems i mentioned before.

i do hope you stick around and maybe give one of the existing categories a try.

BelgiumTike3 years ago

hey,

its great to hear youre enjoying the game and coming up with some new speedrunning ideas however i dont know if this would be a great category, there is alot of switching planets which means a large portion of the run is just loading screens and several of the heroics are not instanced which means there is alot of RNG depending on if other players did the heroic just before you.

feel free to join the discord and head over to the #swtor channels if you want to talk more swtor speedruning or if you have any questions.

BelgiumTike3 years ago

A new subcategory has been added which allows unrestricted use of guild perks and set bonuses. All runs that had a set bonus active have been moved.

The runs that had been rejected have also been added back to the leaderboard.

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BelgiumTike3 years ago

after some discussion in the discord i have decided to remove the current DF WR and leave the others since they shoudnt be too hard to beat even without set bonuses.

BelgiumTike3 years ago

I forgot about guild perk set bonuses, my bad. i have edited the post to clarify that all guild perk set bonuses are banned.

also, in case someone was wondering why: the perks Omnimagnification, Mastery Realization, Power Amplification, Critical Boost and Endurance Supplement are allowed because they dont stack with your class buffs.

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