Use of emulators is allowed. However, I am not familiar with emulators, so I don't know the details. Sorry. I think that emulators that are widely used in general will be fine.

Even if we request such a thing, emulators definitely make it easier to cheat in the run. For instance, QL during the black screen, using 61fps instead of 60fps and so on. To minimize such a possibility, I think requesting to use a real SNES is the best way.

I'm sorry, but I don't think it's a good idea to allow emulator runs for these reasons:

1. Detecting cheats gets quite difficult
2. If we use quick-load(QL), we can use the same piece-pattern, and it's hard to know whether or not the player used QL before the run started.

I uploaded. I hope this would be some help for runners.

I'm sorry about my confusing expression.

I wrote I'm a runner of N64 ver, but this trick can't be used for N64 ver and can be used only (or also SNES? Idk) for NES ver.(I actually got the same pattern with hitting start continuously.) Really confusing. Sorry.

Possibly, I'll post an example video when I'm free.

Thank you.

I'm a speedrunner of N64 ver. but not one of NES ver. So I'm sorry if my opinion is silly.

I've never seen speedrunners using the same "viruses and capsules setting".Why not use this? As you know, all the viruses and capsules are completely decided by the frame when you press start on the level and music select menu. I mean, for example, the first capsule at the start of level 1 doesn't depend on how much time you take to beat level 0. So if you use the same strat at level 0, you can use the same strat at level 1, and if you do so, you can use ... like this.

The first question you may ask is how we start at the same frame. It's not hard to reset at first and then hit start continuously. (You don't have to use the fastest frame. You can choose one from several frames at the start and reset until you get it.) The best way for speedrun is 1: you choose the best frame for the fastest clear 2: you push start at the exact frame judging from the music. Of course, you can use this (probably) 1 frame trick though it's difficult.

The biggest question is how we memorize all the procedure. I think even when we restrict under level 10 or 15, it's extremely hard. Though, there're no rules to stop you from using tools.You can use videos showing how to put capsules 2 seconds after or make some tools that show you next place.

Fortunately, If I'm not misunderstanding, even how many capsules you use doesn't affect the next level. So you can use this trick only for difficult (like 18 19 20) levels.

It's really natural to say "Hey, you should do first". But I found my operation is awful, so I can't know whether it's faster or not. Sorry. But, for fortunate system told above, I suppose this will do even if you don't know all the procedure cuz you can know which to erase.

Thank you for reading.

Thanks for your comments! I understood what i_o_l and JWILD are saying.

In fact, there were some reason why I suggested these problems. First of them: nico live's system. The answer to this was reasonable, I think. Second:I realized low-spec PC and low-speed net-line problems may happen more often I thought. But I understand about this point, too.

Last:There was a really skillful game player in 2D-STG (I don't know this English is correct. I mean games like TOHO or Dodonpachi). He had no streaming tools, but finally beated the game, and he became the only one player who could beat the game. Then, he submitted the video to game-maker. In fact, the game had anti-cheating system (People can know whether he cheated or not easily. Of course he knew it.) So his video was considered to be legitimate. [¤He had a blog and wrote his strategies on 2D-STG] Things like this also happened: In Super Mario 64 speedrun, a player's video was rejected. It proved to be cheat because there was something wrong with periodic noise which recorded video has. [¤There were also those who streamed TAS-WR-patched video on nico-live...]

Considering these things, I thought there is necessity to ask how mods and runners think about these points.

Now, I really understand how mods and other runners think about stream-proof and I have no objection to it. Thank you so much, and I'm sorry to bother you.

Thank you for your valuable comments for my post. I understood them.

Then, I added some info about 4(highlight) On nico and cavetube, there's no way to upload and download highlight. Only way to save the video is recording it after streaming with amareco or something. (There's almost no difference from video-proof only! lol)

However, for nico, there is "Niconama RTA wiki", which collecting record achieved on nicolive, and Live only. I found it can be used, even after 7 days, to prove his or her play was streamed. (still no way for cavetube,but it may not make difference now. I don't know any runner there...)

About 2(Problems when streaming) I want to add this question. This specify the problem, I think: On nico, there is some inconvenience specification that others, like twitch, doesn't have. One particular thing is that streaming finishes every 30 minutes, and then we have (at least 10s or so) blank between them. We never avoid this unless we pay 100JPY($1) for 1 time (silly system!) Addition to it, to get the "30 minutes frame", we have to use auto-getter, or take some troublesome steps. That's why blank sometimes become 30s or longer for some people.(Cuz press start is not allowed on speedrun of this game, of course!) Then, the stream-proof is valid even with such a long blank? At "Niconama RTA wiki", it is often allowed except for some games. I think the video-proof will fill the blank...probably...

¤Even if we pay 100JPY, another problem (I don't explain the detail, but the same kind of problems) will happen. So we can't avoid the blank! In short, this is the REAL problem for nico user.

I realized the rule about stream-proof was added the other day.I don't think it's BAD rule, but there are some problems on this.

1.Low-spec PC For Low-spec PC users, it's hard to stream speedrun. Or, their streams stutter so often to be proof. Is that OK?

2.Problems when streaming For example, if the stream become offline for some trouble during the run, the record will be rejected? That's a little bit nonsense. However, if it is accepted, do you think stream-proof system works well? (we may be able to overcome this by judging flexibly)

3. other problem Those who doesn't have streaming-tool can't get WR forever.(Or those who really dislike streaming ?????) There is no (large enough) website I know accepting no-stream-record.

(4. highlight of cavetube disappear in 3 days and nico in 7 days)

Up to here, I showed opposing opinions. But I don't mean stream-proof is a completely bad rule (I think I have to emphasize this!) I'm sure it prevent speedrunners from cheating to some extend. And I really understand skeptical feeling when seeing new-comer's great record without streaming.

Then,what I want to say is that there may be people who have trouble about this rule and that whether pros - "stream-proof" is a little bit better than "video-proof only" - are proper considering cons (shown above) is somewhat controversial.

-Y/N? Personally, I think there's no need for stream-proof "for now".

Co-op includes double-play? I added my boss battles double-play into my single-play record's comment for the time being. If it does, I want mods to add my record as Co-op one (P1 and P2 is Suzu_Rin) and delete my comment. If NOT, that's OK. Leave it as it is.

●All events best way to begin(?) step1: choose 41 step2: choose your character step3: press start but don't start your timer step4: quit with L+R+A+Start step5: start timer, choose 41, and press start (your character is already chosen) step6: after 41, go to 1→2→...→40(end)

Remark: Don't choose other task between step4 and 5

Reason: 41 needs really long loading time. (but I don't know that's the longest) Character Choose Cut is new technique.

●Classic (and All-star) How are your save data? I've felt my one is not the best condition. I have to talk about this.

As you know, Stages in Classic is ordered with one particular rule. Like this: Stage1 Zelda characters Stage2 Donkey or Yoshi Stage3 Pokemon ...

For example, In stage 1, Which is better for speedrun, Bridge or Ship? In difficult mode, I think Bridge is better. (Even if you think Ship is better, that's no problem) Then, If I didn't have Toon Link yet, I wouldn't have Ship stage in Stage 1. It'd be really good for speedrun.

So what I want to say is "Make the data the best condition will make much difference" You can apply this to All-star, of course.

But, I don't know what condition is the best. It will be changed with the difficulty you choose. what a difficult problem!

(Addition to it, there is practical problem. If you make the best data for every category, you have to spend considerable effort, and you need many SD cards or Wii :-( )

If you have some ideas about this or other strats, please write in here!

Then, I'll talk about strats in speedrun. (This is not Guides.)

●All Events When you choose a event, you have to wait during load. They'er really long, but there's no way to cut them as far as I know. But I noticed one technique. When you choose the same event in a series, the loading time become a little shorter. Then one question will arise: Which event you have to chose to make the most of this difference. ] I have no idea about this... (This is why I suggested rule revision 2 in the first post)

Long message may be not comfortable to read, so I'll write about Classic in the next post...

I want to talk about speed run strats. But, before that, I want to suggest some rule revisions to mods.

1 I hope you put "and Crazy Hand" in Classic rules into bracket like this: (and Crazy Hand) I think 1 continue is faster than beating him.

2 I hope you change when timing ends in All Events. Because any order is accepted, the last one don't have to be Event 41. (You may think there is no one who doesn't start with Event 1. But... I'll talk about this in next post)

I don't think they're big problems, but newcomers can be confused