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AustraliaMnyush5 years ago

@IanTEB764 the best place to post any discoveries is in the dedicated channel to it in the discord. But, this is actually something that's been known for a long time, and isn't really a glitch, but an exploit of bouncing on something right under a ceiling, similar to the cap throw grinding method using the dog as seen in All Unique Moons and 100%. And @PainPita NPC bounces do not count as jumps, which is why this wouldn't work,and even if it were, idk if it'd be as fast as the method we currently use, and it'd also be much more annoying because you wouldn't be able to stay up there and grind jumps for long before coming up from under the ceiling. Otherwise the cap throw farming method would also be an effective jump farm and the jump farm we actually do would be much less of a pain.

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AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

My first run was a 1:27:33. Practiced a decent amount beforehand, and choked by dying twice in the escape sequence.

AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

You know you have a good category when you do absolutely nothing for 80-90% of the run. Also, who's going to grind for that sweet sub 40? Kappa

AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

Most people seem to underestimate rather than overestimate how far speedgames can really be pushed. Like, remember when we weren't even at sub 1:10? I don't think people thought the current WR would be possible for a long time, yet it has been a mere 4 months since the game's release. There are so many minor strats and tech left to utilise and discover we can keep improving the time for a while yet just with such optimisation. And like I said, the game's been out for 4 months, we have a long way to go.

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AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

Theoretically speaking, it would be possible. There's this thing called ledge clip that allows for clipping into any 90 degree straight ledge in the game (as far as we know) via diving or long jumping into them. However, this is arguably the most difficult glitch in the game. If you plan to find a way to use it, you'll at least need to find a setup to get it remotely usable in any kind of run.

AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

We already know you can get up to the spot. If you can get up top, it would skip the inside of the pyramid, which is quite long for WP. Don't know if it would help 253+ as they might want the moons on the inside of the pyramid.

AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

'a category for almost every costume'. Most costumes are visiting the right kingdom with the right amount of coins (Nipple% is worth doing because memes, cheapo costumes are just getting to the right spot while collecting coins, and expensive ones are coin grinding), or do any% until you reach the right kingdom, then you grab some purple coins. The thing with chef% is you do 2 kingdoms different (luncheon and wooded/lake, whichever leads up to it). It's the most unique run of any costume that would use purple coins.

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AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

A thing I like is that, should the major sequence break be found there, the transition to new any% would be smoother, some runners would be comfortable with tricks, the route would be almost entirely sorted, etc.

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AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

After you deposit moons, your moon counter goes back to zero. And you also don't see the little dotted circles which indicate required moons, which only appear until you're able to travel to the next kingdom.

AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

Of course the glitch works. If you couldn't tell, he's already gone past this kingdom. I was saying Glydon may not be there early. Of course the painting works when you've unlocked the kingdom it goes to. If you ask around, even though we can reach a few paintings early, none of them are activated. Ask anyone who's tried to get to Snow painting early, Seaside painting early. Sorry, but this glitch not only is useless unless you want to skip the cutscene you get when you go through paintings, but it's been known about since around the time the clip was discovered.

AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

There are a few flaws with this. First of all, Glydon isn't available in most kingdoms until post-game. Secondly, most paintings aren't activated until you've reached the kingdom it goes to, and you must've achieved world peace in that world.

AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

You need to get a nut, and it must touch the bottom of a floor of water. The video shows the rest.

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AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

Apparently, if you swim fast enough, you reach air before going back in water. Other problems arise though.

We don't know if it can happen without a large quantity of water. (it might happen, but the airswim glitch isn't common enough to really be able to tell, as people will miss the tiny lakes around) The water in the air has a height limit, and a strict X and Z axis limit. Go over land, and there's no 'water' over it. Would it be enough to get to a height such that you can jump out, and reach any 'out of reach' spots? I doubt it a heap.

I do hope I end up being wrong though.

AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

Here are some ideas for rules.This could be a category run on a profile that has all the required moons unlocked. Imo, it'd make sense to go through every world, from mushroom to darker side, doing all the 'warp areas' in each. Maybe even put an additional rule if you want players to go through darker side, it would make sense to force them to do so, as it's the final and most difficult of the warp challenges. The frog air swim wouldn't be in spirit of the rest of the run - the aim to go through every warp area. In the end, it'll depend on the decision of the mods, whether they think this is a good category, and what rules they make for it.

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AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

There are 2 problems.

  1. We don't have a way to do this consistently without a frog. A rare incident.
  2. Even if you were to airswim, I doubt it would let you reach the island anyway, whether this be running out of air, or the body of 'water' not being large enough to get you there.
AustraliaMnyush6 years ago

The Roll Cancel Clip (the Bound Bowl clip you're talking about), appears to only work on very specific walls. Only bound bowl and early pyramid have been found. I doubt it will be able to be used anywhere in the Cascade Kingdom, let alone a useful spot. Still though, if you do want to have a look around, make sure to use the new method for the clip, it's a lot easier: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/7eyu2p/smo_easier_method_of_doing_the_roll_cancel_clip/

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