Well that, I finished BL 1 full campaign and tested some next blue levels scenarios and they seem pretty over the top, some seems kinda beatable (not that i could) but others are simply insane...

Are there any proof somewhere of someone beating levels of them??

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Also, i think the any% category as it is now should be changed, it is kinda a "100%" or full campaign the requisites... any% as in other games "fastest way to get the credits in any form" should be just put the password of Blue Level 3 last scenario and beat it...

Blue Level 1 and 2 don't give you credits apparently, they are kinda just "bad endings"...

Other interesting option could be put "Blue Level 1 any%", "Blue Level 2 any%" and "Blue Level 3 any%" to just put the passwords and beat the last scenarios to trigger their endings...

Whatever path is taken, any% as it is now is unrunable for the brutal duration and not only human gameplay errors but RNG crushing many scenarios and time.

GG jwfu !

Should be its own category definitely...

At first sight: different load times, less glitches, less exploits... probably more differences floating around...

Thought about running a PS1 version, it's the only one I've played back then, but then moved to other stuff though...

Strong disagree with the rejection... most of my non-played RTA time is in taking notes of the final racing times (no automatic splits) and the loading times of console (when I mostly drink), all video scenes are cut straight or within seconds... good luck finding a PS level 4 run being sub-36 RTA for being "morally acceptable" speedrun...

I welcomed the recent incorporation of this category this year in Road Rash 2, which was also put in Road Rash 1 of genesis...

I think it's fun and incorporates the other side of this game, which is the beatings and forced crashes of other bikers while racing (and qualifying)...

I don't know what the mods think of opening this category here... I think we can almost copy paste the rules of RR2 with interesting results, maybe just using the full races time (instead of cutting when the last KO arrives) since there's no IGT available inside the races...

If mods like the idea I can work a run (in PS version) to start the category...

Moved to Level 4, without luck yet... if my memory serves right this run had mediocres City and Pacific, so definitely on the table to be beaten... ;)

Thanks for the feedback guys, I will explore JwFu PC run before venturing a bit more... if I still struggle maybe will just move to do something in Level 3 or 4, hopefully more human categories haha

I grinded a couple days this level until I took notice that, unlike Big Game mode, Trash Mode ask you to not wreck or be busted at all because you lose all qualifications... which as any RR player knows, in Level 5 is something insane to ask...

In YT I found no videos of anyone beating it...

Unless I'm missing some key strat, which I doubt, I think this is only RTA viable with Game Shark cheats or further with save states...

Thoughts?

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I agree my point is in a problem, I don't want to contest the WR but do suggest game audio IS kinda standard in most games speedruns nowadays... and here it's interesting for a racing game with many RNG elements and fight touches as RR is...

So well, it is what it is, just my two cents on the matter.

Hi guys, I'm not gonna contest an already verified run but isn't it weird or even sad that the best run, of the most played category, the game is in silence and it's with external music???

A shame since Road Rash 3 in particular has a top5 soundtrack of all the console I'd say... In other notorious games, as Super Metroid or Sonic 2 for example, the game's audio is absolutely mandatory for the runs...

I understand that in the grind you start to grow tired, but that comes with the territory...

Also in the other hand, I saw that with dozens of hours playing level 1, my sum of best is 13.17.9/13.18.0, doesn't even reach the WR... and 2nd place Anko's sum of best, as noted in his run, also doesn't even reach the WR... well, who knows, I'll leave it at that...

But I do suggest the game's audio be mandatory for future runs...

Hails guys, today I checked again my notes, so yes, without Buffy/Alaska and Lawson/arizona cases, I got this:

Alaska (9) : 1)Ralph 2) Slug 3) Axle 4) Rude Boy 5) Bunker 6) Kakana 7) Lesley (!) 8) Slater 9) Officer 11

Arizona (11) : 10) Ralph 11) Slug 12) Bunker 13) Rude Boy 14) Kakana 15) Buffy 16) Roz 17) Slater 18) Natasha 19) Viper 20) Axle

Hawaii (5) : 21) Ralph 22) Slug 23) Axle 24) Rude Boy 25) Kakana at 1.37.0 IGT.

Total IGT: 8.18.7 (AL 3.17.1 + AR 3.24.6 + HAW 1.37.0)

I guess Lesley/Alaska at YT 18:12 is the only "arguably" of these 25, the other 24 seem pretty straight forward... now i'm using YT frame timer between the frames of the hit (18:13) and the car crash (18:15) and it gave me 1.93 seconds... I thought it would prosper withouth even remembering the 3 secs rule haha...

Regardless of all this, a run close or sub 8.00.0 is definetely on the table...

Haha tomorrow I'll check again my notes but i believed it still was WR with lawson and buffy cases discarded (take in mind buffy i never take it into original submitted time) but Lawson out of arizona was a possibility and in my notes it ended being Alaska 9, Arizona 11 (instead of 12), Hawaii 5 at 1.37.0 (6th KO not needed) and 8.18.7 final IGT...

Could be wrong though, tomorrow I'll check it out...

Didn't I uploaded it in the Shuriken 400 category?? I'd appreciate if someone can move it over there!

Thanks, Arizona could have been a touch better and would get into top3 but I'll take it, it is what it is

In light of RTA elimination, maybe add to 'game rules' that failing races times do still count to total IGT...

...in case any future speedrunner starts to do 'race shopping' and after having 2 or 3 good races, start wrecking/getting busted the other ones before ending them, until they get cleaner ones hahah

Note to the mods: considering the rules of this category, especially:

*Time starts when you press start race. *Time ends when you knock off your 25th biker

The leaderboard must go with RTA time FIRST, not with the IGT as it is now... the races are important but secondary to the knocking off 25 guys (their importance is just in being qualified)...

I didn't mean to create another category neither harder or easier than the recent one, just focusing on a different aspect.

It's obvious from the beggining that in rash mode or insert whatever category of number of knockouts, by matter of time standards, beating cops that are slower and with more energy will always be considered useless.

Also, concerning the easy or watered down aspect, runs of the last levels are still "easy"... since almost nobody run them, whatever time got will be good.

If mods consider it "arbitrary" it's ok, feel free to not add. Classic games has more categories than few (see Super Metroid, most Marios, Sonic, etc.) and Road Rash 2 and 3 are classic for me, but whatever.

(And lastly, as I wrote it in the other thread, I didn't suggest this before just because the runners/mods never created categories taking the fighting aspect into consideration.)

There it is, now will start to prepare a decent run of Rash Mode, won't grind it too much though... hope it's not that optimized yet, haha

As a ramification of the Rash Mode thread and exploring other aspects of the game other than just the racing aspect, I suggested this category: "lawless%" or "reckless%", left to mods to decide the ultimate name.

I can't recall if it was this road rash or the 3rd that it's final level was one against pure cops, thus the game definetely plays with that confronting legality aspect (as GTA and other games will continue to do further in gaming history).

To the pure racing aspect of speed/time and administration of the RNG elements in the roads, the mandatory beat up adds an interesting dose of RNG and "farming" to it.

So well, taking the rules from the recently rash mode:

-Beat a full level with 1 officer/cop knock-out in each qualified race. -Time starts when you press start in whatever is your 1st race. -Time ends when you qualify your last race of the level. -RTA time count first. -Level 1 standard bike to start, no passwords allowed. -Can buy a different bike if you want after you earn the money to purchase one. -You can select any track from the 5 to start (doesn't have to be Alaska). -All knock offs must be visible to count. Crashing against cars allowed only if its by a player's kicks.

Enjoy.

I already made a first run, it's uploading to YT by now...