Everything is all right, these savefiles weren't unlocked manually, just hacked. That's why there are a lot of items missing in collection page.

No because 1 character runs are the most rng based type of runs.

Well, topic is now outdated because in the latest version of afterbirth+ you can hold R on eden. :D

https://gfycat.com/CreativeNimbleAmericangoldfinch You can s&q like this, and I believe there is enough time to react and avoid teleport but since your portal appeared after blue baby fight, I think it's ok for run to be valid because you cleared blue baby. Only difference is that instead of jumping into chest you jumped into trapdoor into next floor but both of them "end" floor, therafore I think run should be valid.

Well, if tool is gonna be in speedrun.com resources, is it really necessary to enforce it to use it only on first character? I would propose to allow it all together.

So I want to start this discussion before we get a bunch of runs in the categories. From what I know sillypears' script that allows holding R on eden works in afterbirth+. Do you guys think this tool should be allowed? In my personal opinion it's convienient tool and I like the fact that it makes resetting on eden less annoying, so I am obviously up for allowing it.

Actually, now that I think about it we don't need 13, let's just do 7, 11 from rebirth and 14.

I propose following categories: 7char, 11char (rebirth ones, with lost without lilith), 13char(afterbirth ones), 14char, I think 1char is unnecessary, but if people want to do it I suggest to 7char to be the first tab, because that's what the most people will probably run To booster packs, just add game version tab.

So here is a thread to discuss suggestion of game changes for afterbirth+ that will make racing and speedrunning better. We don't know what modding tools will be capable of, so suggestion are gonna be either sent to Tyrone on twitter, or made by ourselves via modding tools. I figured it would be good to discuss those things in 1 place, so here we go.

My first and obvious suggestion is fixing floor generation algorythm, so we don't get 2 rooms floor, second one is adjusting weight of shop items, so mapping is more common. Those are 2 obvious ones that come into my mind, I will probly think about more later

No, fuck lilith :)

Well, judas d6 is racing mod in the first place, so I am against removing soul heart from judas because it's mod design choice that came from rebirth racing, and it supose to fix consistency of dd's on judas. But, I think adding half of a soul heart to bb or azazel would be a good choice to increase consistency of those characters, in terms of racing, and speedrunning. So I am up for that change.

#allowRonEden

Rather than "you can't use a co-op baby to deal damage.", I think we should ban additional input that is not physical, if that makes sense, because most of the setups of syncing coop babies(besides one, which is a lot of the time not even worth setting up, because it's game glitch that require changing input method for every coop baby spawn). My proposition for rule is "You are not allowed to dupe your inputs via external programs". My reasoning for allowing coop babies damage but not allowing duping input is that coop baby can be handy for some softlock potential rooms, when for example your range is not big enough and you are out of bombs, or when flies are flying above rocks, then you can spawn coop baby and clear room just with it.

Also, if someone is able to play with coop baby with his feet, I think he should be able to do that lol

Pibo, I believe that option that you touched is interpolation, I don't exactly know what it does, but it varies depending on pc, for me it makes game run twice as fast, for Zamiel it slowed it down. It's better to either leave it at 1, or just don't include line in a file, does esentially the same thing :P

From my experience(I am using this file since rebirth), those are the best settings in terms of fps:

[Options] EnableColorCorrection=1 EnableCaustics=0 EnableShockwave=0 EnableLighting=0 EnableFilter=0 EnablePixelation=0 EnableBloom=0 EnableWaterSurface=0

You can try disabling color correction too, but from I can tell it doesn't boost performance, and only makes game darker. Also lighting settings increased performance the most for me.

I don't like idea of banning coop exploits considering the fact that:

1. It's not a game breaking strategy/exploit, WR can obtainable without using coop exploits, current 7char wr doesn't use coop.
2. Saying that it makes game straight up easier is not necessarily true, because you constantly push yourself to 1 heart, which makes it easier to die obviously.
3. While mostly it's about devil deals, you can make some other interesting plays like keeping scapular proc with coop baby.

Also to pibo's point "That's not an insurance against bad RNG anymore, that just removes any requirement for skillful play to not get hit, conserve health, bomb tinted rocks, etc." then if it's removing any requirement for skillful play, why we don't have WR's set by a random people?

I don't think leaderboards should be wiped every new version since judas d6 version doesn't affect time that much, but it would be nice if you could make "mod version" entry, so it would display mod version that run was done on.

I don't have money for another cheap laptop :(

Seed was different for you because everyone was running it on hardmode, while you runned it on normalmode, that's why your floor was different :D

I think s&q ban should be lifted myself, since gamebreaking bugs that involved that mechanic got patched. To occurance of the bug where you can't continue game after exiting, I honestly don't know what causes it, it never happened to me but I saw barry experiencing it a lot in his character runs.