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United StatesJordian7 years ago

Ikkitrix knows he loses a lot of time by skipping the study but it still saves 40 seconds on castle. But then you lose like 10 seconds on blight + up to 30 seconds or more on calamity. It all depends on what you are better at it seems.

The best first phase Ive seen with study on calamity1 is around 50 seconds, compared to 1:25 without study.

So it's really hard to judge. There is actually another tree that is faster then the tree launch he used but it's much harder to pull off but it saves 10-15 more seconds if done well. If that tree becomes consistent he would probably go back to skipping study.

Skipping study makes weapon durability cutting it really close along with a risky tree launch so for now think hes going back to study.

United StatesJordian7 years ago

Nothing but you would still need good weapons. Tree only saves like 10 seconds then without. New route has the weapons without the study if needed. It was always close to whether you should skip or do study, but with tree it made it slightly better to skip.

I can not say for the old route, unless you find a route that can skip study with good enough weapons and how much time it costs to get other weapons and if the fights will be slower.

It's not really relevant anyways since for the new route skipping study only saves roughly 20 seconds at the most. Study still makes for insane boss fights and would be faster then old route. The only possible way it wouldn't be faster is if the +3 along with double royal guard bows that fire twice as fast as royal bows and 25% more damage doesn't end up being over a minute faster then old route.

Just the double royal guard bows make study roughly 30-40 seconds faster then skipping study on the new route. For the boss fight.

You can run the old route without amiibos but it won't be faster, at least it wont be faster as long as you get the 50% at the banana :)

United StatesJordian7 years ago

The standard old route doesn't skip study, it is needed for weapons. I haven't seen a single run skip study thats not weeks old, not even the most recent amiibo runs skip it. Maybe it can skip study but mostly everyone doesn't so I wouldn't know why it would be a good idea.

The new castle route Pydoyks found that uses a tree launch. Ikkitrix finishes it in about 5:15 it depends where you split and where you do your inventory sorting. If you sort in fights its shorter. Also Ikkitrix's run could be about 10 seconds faster but its a pretty good overall split. Still a harder boss fight on calamity on slightly on blights then if you went to study but can save almost a minute.

Even then +3 saves over a minute compared to +1.

And yes this run relies on RNG. If you get +2 then this route could be slower but probably around the same time as old route even since the castle route is so fast now. the chance you don't get a banana for +3 is about 50%. And that can lose about 40 seconds.

United StatesJordian7 years ago

Old Route has no chance of being faster. Castle split can be done in 5 minutes flat and thats slightly faster then old route. Or you can do the route and go to zeldas study which results in a 5:40 best possible castle time thats 30 seconds slower, but makes for insane fast calamity phase1 and overall faster blights by like 20 seconds compared to +1.

United StatesJordian7 years ago

I think it's worth testing this glitch out anyways, but I do think it's only on the emulator. If not it would make shrines much faster probably.

United StatesJordian7 years ago

I'm looking forward to the All Main quests / True Ending. Should be fun.

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United StatesJordian7 years ago

You can clip through walls with a Horse but only specific walls with land behind them. Also there is no way to clip back in bounds after you clip in the walls.

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United StatesJordian7 years ago

You also don't want 2 separate categories if the runs are almost the exact same. And plenty of speedrun games have any% not being actual any% because they don't want a certain glitch or other thing that ruins the run.

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United StatesJordian7 years ago

Amiibos make runs less interesting. Also once the runs get optimized it could require using amiibos up to 8 different ones to save seconds off your time. Who knows it could even save more no one has tested it yet. But it's RNG besides Epona.

Makes runs RNG, you have to spend money on multiple amiibos possibly, and it makes the runs less interesting overall taking out routing for weapons, horse, food?, etc. It adds doesn't make runs more interesting like Tingle Tuner and just makes them worse.

United StatesJordian7 years ago

Special ending% I guess where it involves doing all dungeons+memories+master sword? Just getting the master sword requires doing shrines to have enough hearts. I just think their should be a category for doing the mains story and I think that would be most of it.

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United StatesJordian7 years ago

I agree with Gymnast, Whether Amiibos will be allowed in any% is up to the runners at the end of the day. And that can be decided when the run is more fleshed out and more time has passed. But for now it's fine letting both runs be any%

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