Massachusetts, USAI just like playing hard games. Idk what v meter is and I don't like covering the game with splits. Just wanted to share my run.
I mean I get both sides... I personally think the goal should be fastest real time so that the focus is on riskier gameplay to get a faster time such as using bullet time sparingly, not getting bullet cams, melee kills or last stands... but measuring in real time would lead to differences in load times (even though it could be easy to subtract from times since they're only between stages)...
The burden is higher to collect the guns than to take them off... I don't need them I won't get them but whatever I don't think it helps with speed...
I think everyone should start with the same materials and golden guns don't really save time so if you want them just turn the effects off... personally I don't want to have to grind through the game to be competitive... I think the barrier for entry should be as low as possible to encourage more runs...
Golden guns definitely increase clip size... effects can be turned off easily in settings... and Idk but I think the in game timer is slowed with bullet time and theoretically pausing could be used to a player's advantage since you can look and aim in the menu... I just personally think that a speedrun should encourage faster play not taking advantage of a slower clock... (that said load times are probably way more significant but that's why I said we should put up both)
I'm not allowed to respond to Matumbro so I'm just going to put this here...
For the record I wanted a Glitchless category because I ran the game without unpatching, duping, or warping and figured some other people might want to run that way as well (seems more accessible)... I ran on the hardest difficulty so I'm clearly not trying to create a category where I get first (Like the knights of the nine category)...
I tried to submit an 8 hour long all guilds run (with no duping, out of bounds or warping) again clearly not to get a WR but because I thought someone might want a different way to learn the route since I couldn't really learn much from funcannons run... My run was rejected because I didn't use the "Loadless" timer or limit to 60 frames... a lot of what's cut from the time is not loads such as wait time, accessing menu, and talking to people and I'm pretty sure my game wasn't over 60 frames and if it was I wasn't cheating to get an advantage since my time is 5 whole hours slower than the other run...
Other games are a lot more tolerant of runners such as New vegas... they have a glitchless category (where they don't ban every glitch just the major ones abused in the any% run), they don't require limiting frames unless it's an unfair advantage, they start timer on first input, don't allow starting with an existing save, you don't have to unpatch your game, and time it the way 1 guy wants in order to be competitive...
I think a lot of the rules here are arbitrary or only exist to lower times so that you guys can feel good about yourselves or attract more attention... I don't think there should be an exclusionary culture to speedrunning and the opposite is usually the case with every other game on this site...
If you don't want to share my runs fine I honestly don't care people can find them on twitch or youtube... but to claim that there's dispute over what is and isn't a glitch is disingenuous...
Going out of bounds is a major glitch because it removes certain aspects of the game and that was banned... I'm saying there should maybe be a category that bans duping and warping since it negates several things in the game that make the game challenging... I don't think getting umbra as opposed to azura is a major glitch that makes the run remarkably different... (my main concern with no oob was every single route is the same, you need to unpatch and use a timer I think is cutting more than loads and the differences in time are based on luck or ability to menu as opposed to routes or skill...)
This will probably get deleted because god forbid you challenge the ideas of the first people to mod this site... they're inherently right and there's only two ways to run this game... all of which are on the easiest difficulty...
(I don't want to start a flame war so I'm not going to respond or visit this leaderboard ever again... just wanted to say my piece and let you know why I think the board for this game I love is lame)
well you have to watch the cutscenes pretty much anyway... I was referring to nym hardcore because they use the in game time which can be paused and slows with bullettime... I'm pretty sure they use real time for the other runs...
I think we should have both Real time and In-game time since in-game time is slowed with bullet time and stops with pauses... and maybe ban golden gun effects... My game kept pausing at random and I still finished faster than Untz (but he has longer load times so idk... I just think we should put as much info up as we can...)
I mean I just did it single segment... it's on my twitch .... I submitted it for any% but it's 1hr 25min RTA, 59min in game...
Well you know what would change the route and prevent you from standing for half an hour... resetting and starting at level 1... it's more informative about the game, it's more difficult, it would require differing strategies (in regards to skill points and blue prints), the cars aren't indestructable, and there's tension because there's actually a chance you could die... It's unique as in it has more mods than runners... there are at least 3 speedruns on youtube that aren't submitted here (not counting my own)... Most communities want the most runners and to keep pushing times... this just seems like a personal blog
Idk most games only have categories for basic any% (aka no saves), NG+, Hardest difficulty, and 100%... This leaderboard is one of the strangest... and no surprise one of the least populated...
why? shouldn't you just time it when you gain control? like every other bethesda run... or speedrun ever...
If you want to do weird runs like no bullets and no healing whatever... (Like you're level 50 so you have health regen so it's weird to treat it like a challenge run) I have a traditional Nightmare run... Start at lvl 1, Only use blueprints I pick up, and I don't just stand around when they say to explore... I don't want to compete with people using saves...
