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EmilyU7 months ago

glad someone finally submitted low%, hopefully the mods will get around to adding the category :P

some notes, magic meter can be skipped since its only functional visually, vanish cap like you theorized in your forum post could be skipped using bomb cloning in final bowser to get coins for health, but probably not gonna happen because its very difficult to line them up

EmilyU7 months ago

low% should be added according to sapling's proposal now that they have submitted a run

as for low% no sequence breaks I'm not sure how much it would deviate from the normal progression especially if they're not allowed in dungeons, hard to say really if that'd be any different from an any% no sequence break run

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EmilyU2 years ago

All valid points to bring up, Zako. I think its fair to be concerned about the consistency of what it means for it to be a 100% run. I think new categories are possible and up for consideration, but my hesitation is that we'd be preserving the NSR category over semantics rather than adjusting for what people seem to actually want to work towards improving and doing runs of. The theory of having no coin grinding seems to excite potential interested runners who found it tedious, as well as viewers of said runs.

NSR has very little going for it without this new development and I think it would just remain dormant when there are new things giving people a reason to do runs again. The 2 other people in this thread are the only other currently present runners I've talked to who've expressed interest in NSR and they seem to agree with this definition of the run.

Normal 100% will always be there to keep authenticity to the game's intended progression and content. "No Source Requirements" by nature is a rejection of this premise, and I don't think it should be any different now. As long as you end the game with every menu item and the intended total star count after beating Final Bowser, it should be fair game imo.

EmilyU2 years ago

Thanks for the input, Bigfoot. I think 100% Normal makes sense staying the way it is and having it be banned is the right call for the category as it exists now. Room can likely be made for a slightly more lenient alternative to the 100% Normal category that is closer to the idea of just solely banning RHA if that's something that people want to run.

EmilyU2 years ago

Yeah I'm surprised every other one just does nothing/crashes, most likely just a quirk of what memory addresses are getting overwritten? I forgot to mention it originally, but shoutouts to JARP who found this glitch and brought it up off-handedly in chat during one of Bigfoots 100% streams a while back. If it weren't for someone going through every single one and testing it it'd probably not have been found.

I agree 100% NSR is a good call regardless, I mostly suggest changing both categories to support it since it seems like it would only make 100% Normal more enjoyable to run without much change to the big difference between the categories. Watching runs start to slow down right before the run ends is always a bummer imo, and the change feels worth it.

EmilyU2 years ago

If you collect the fountain star in the desert after dying it gives you 6 stars in the ranch section of hyrule field. 2 of these stars cannot be collected in normal gameplay, so you can now technically get 171 stars without collecting every intended star.

Here to ask about what people think about using this in 100%, and if those extra 2 stars should count towards 100% completion. Having those extra stars would let you skip all coin grinding in the run by replacing the two most expensive coin stars with these fake ones. I think getting rid of coin grinding will make the run more entertaining, and more enjoyable to play, so I'd want to come up with a way to integrate it into runs.

I it were up to me, I'd rename the 100% categories to match Any%'s RHA/No-RHA scheme: 100% Normal = 100% No-RHA 100% NSR = 100% RHA

RHA is still the main differing factor between the two categories, and it would make the leaderboards more legible and consistent. Plus it means both runs become significantly faster and less boring to complete.

Any discussion is appreciated, want to know what the consensus on this is before doing any runs with it.

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