Pennsylvania, USA"I don't care about this game...."
sets world record lol
Well done mate!
Before I begin, let me tell you a little about myself. I've been speedrunning for over 2 years and have held over 80 records crossing 7 different platforms. Tetris 2 was the first game I requested to be a mod for because I was running it myself and the mods were inactive. Since then, I've become the mod of 8 other games. I check every day to see if runs are submitted and if someone beats one of my records, I have no problem verifying them. I take this seriously. I also don't have a problem admitting if I'm wrong or if I made a mistake.
So let's break this down...
This run, let's be honest, looks too good to be true. Dangerous moves that would either ruin runs or add minutes are done with precision. Meanwhile, some simple moves have mistakes. Let's get into the concerns raised in this thread...
If this is a TAS, it is either the worst TAS I've ever seen or he put in way too much work to make it seem like it wasn't. The run is riddled with movement errors. And by "movement errors" I mean the "thud" sound the game makes when you try to move a piece where it can't go. There are also a number of placement errors that would have saved more time.
Next, the time difference between 1st and 2nd. This was a no loss run. If you look at 2nd place, and this is with no disrespect to exewin, exewin had several losses in that run. Is a no loss, 1-80 run rare? Absolutely. But getting one can cut what seems like a lifetime from a run.
LiveSplit - I've noticed that with splits, it's not just about visual cues, but audio cues as well. You start picking up on things and know when to hit your splitter. Now, if every split across every one of his runs was done on the exact same frame after "Round Over" appears, this would be a concern. But there are differences.
Gonna go over some smaller things now before I address the 2 biggest concerns...
Live streaming isn't required for most games.
When I became a mod for this game, I went along with the rules that were in place,
"Timer starts when you push start at the puzzle screen. Timer stops when Round Clear is shown."
It wasn't required to show the title screen or a reset from the previous game. This may change going forward however.
He's new to speedrun.com. I can't speak for why he didn't sign up before breaking the record.
Haven't heard back from the SNES Tetris 2 mod about his run over there so I'm guessing they're not active.
The biggest questions come from the possibility of using save states and the choice of emulator.
Yes, it's an old emulator. However, it's still used today because it works on older computers. Before I got the PC I have now, I ran an HP Pavilion for around 5 years that wouldn't run Mesen properly. My Dell crashed and it was what I could afford.
The only other reason I could think of for using an older emulator is that it wouldn't show a message when a save state is loaded. So I downloaded it. And it says "STATE LOADED #0" in the bottom left corner of the screen when you load a save state.
So while I thank you all for your concerns, through the checking I've done along with a third party, until someone brings forward concrete evidence, this run will stand as legit.
Oh, and I checked the 10 and 30 round runs as well. If it wasn't for placement errors, they could have been faster.
I've contacted a mod from SNES Tetris 2 to see if there is a reason this run hasn't been verified. Granted, the submission is only a week and a half old (assuming it was submitted on the day the video was posted), but there is a possibility it was rejected.
Thank you to nymx and DrD2k9 for your input.
I just want to touch on a couple of things first. I will be taking a much closer look at the video so I do not want you to think I am disregarding your thoughts. But I've had a long day of streaming, it's very late, and there are a couple of things that stand out in my mind...
When I ran this myself, I was pretty much able to tell on the first level if the run was going to be worth doing. Granted, I only ran 10 rounds, but, there are 2 or 3 Round 1s that can be done very fast with 3 or less pieces. This isn't complete RNG for the board and each specific board has a predetermined series of blocks. You're not going to hit a perfect run. While it's technically possible, it's easier to just say it's impossible.
If this was a TAS, it was a very poorly done one. Especially considering the times at Round 10 and Round 30 are slower than the records Cyber_of_Memory already holds. Plus, there is human error in both placement and rotation throughout the run, among other things.
If this was spliced, it would have had to happen after Round 44. The score maxes out during the bonus count from Round 43.
There is nothing in the rules saying when the recording has to start. Most people, as a form of habit, include the game being powered on/reset. I do that for everything because the first couple games I ran required it. So I do it now whether the rules state it or not. This is the only game Cyber runs. This may be worth adding to the rules, but Cyber shows from the level select screen.
When I took over as mod, there was nothing that said you have to use this or that emulator if you're going to use one. The only problem would be if the emulator causes a problem that makes the game run faster than another emulator. This isn't the case.
Over the next couple of days, I will look deeper at the video. I will also ask for assistance from a 3rd party with knowledge of the game for their input.
Hello :)
Requesting Moderator status for Time Pilot (https://www.speedrun.com/time_pilot#Colecovision_1-Loop). Current Mod hasn't signed in in 4 months and I have an active submission in queue for 7 weeks.
Thank you.
What's up everyone!
I was added as a new mod today (11/17) and I'm working on the backlog of runs to verify. Hoping we can get this going as a community again!
Look forward to seeing the great runs!
Peace, PoppaPickett :)
I just requested mod status in the "Request Leaderboard Moderation" thread. Hopefully we'll have an answer soon.
Hello :) I'd like to request mod status for Tetris 2 NES https://www.speedrun.com/tetris_2_nes
The mods have only been inactive for a month and 2 months, but there is a current forum thread where players are reporting unverified runs dating back to January of this year. I believe I meet all of the requirements for moderator.
Thank you.
I've moved on to some other runs and I'm going to be submitting a number of games for approval, so I can't really add this to what will be a pile of games I'll already be moderating. Sorry everyone.
Been running this for a couple weeks now and still waiting for any of my runs to get verified as well. Wow, from January? How fast was it?
My longest is 2:11:51 in Diablo 3 which was the first game I started running. Since then, a majority of my runs have been 10 minutes or less in other games.
Is there a possibility of getting this added to the categories?
